# Is there an American drama similar to Nirvana in Fire?

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Is there an American drama similar to Nirvana in Fire in both genre and era?

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 4:35am UTC](https://discussions.viki.com/t/is-there-an-american-drama-similar-to-nirvana-in-fire/18204/2 "2017-12-21T04:35:45Z")

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Are you asking about a drama based on American history? If so, There was no America (USA) in the 6th century which is the era of Nirvana in Fire.

I haven’t watched Nirvana in Fire yet (and my knowledge of Chinese history is _very_ limited), but the drama is based on a war between **Northern** Wei and **Southern** Liang.

> **[Nirvana in Fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_in_Fire)**
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> Nirvana in Fire (Chinese: 琅琊榜; pinyin: Lángyá Bǎng) is a 2015 Chinese historical drama and political thriller based on Hai Yan's book Lang Ya Bang (瑯琊榜). It was directed by Kong Sheng and Li Xue, and stars Hu Ge, Liu Tao and Wang Kai as Mei Changsu, Princess Nihuang and Prince Jing. The series tells the story of Lin Shu, who, under the alias Mei Changsu, enters the capital of Liang to seek justice for a conspiracy that labeled his family as traitors 12 years before. It originally aired two epi Th...

In America (USA) there was a war between the Northern and Southern States (Civil War) between 1861 and 1865. But I don’t think that’s really a viable comparison. There are however, movies and television shows based on that era. If you’re interested, here is a list:

> **[List of films and television shows about the American Civil War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_and_television_shows_about_the_American_Civil_War)**
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> The following is a list of films and television shows about the American Civil War (1861–1865).

So, the Civil War (War Between the States) is the only historical event that seems _remotely_ (in a geographical sense) similar.

> **[American Civil War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War)**
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> The American Civil War (April 12, 1861 – May 26, 1865; also known by other names) was a civil war in the United States between the Union\[e\] ("the North") and the Confederacy ("the South"), which was formed in 1861 by states that had seceded from the Union. The central conflict leading to war was a dispute over whether slavery should be permitted to expand into the western territories, leading to more slave states, or be prohibited from doing so, which many believed would place slavery on a co...

I don’t think the Revolutionary War (between the American colonies and Britain) could be considered.

> **[American Revolutionary War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War)**
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> American and allied victory
> Great Britain cedes generally, all mainland territories east of the Mississippi River, south of the Great Lakes, and north of the Floridas to the United States.
>  Great Britain

Hope this makes sense.

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 10:31am UTC](https://discussions.viki.com/t/is-there-an-american-drama-similar-to-nirvana-in-fire/18204/3 "2017-12-21T10:31:31Z")

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I would recommend “Dances with Wolves” which is closer to an epic western but the first film with a large cast of Native Americans speaking their own language and following their own traditions. Yes, it has subs. It the closest one I could think of that might give you the feel of Nirvana.

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://discussions.viki.com/t/is-there-an-american-drama-similar-to-nirvana-in-fire/18204/4 "2017-12-21T15:54:13Z")

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Set in America? Or simply an English speaking show produced in America? You would have better luck with shows made in America/United Kingdom but set in Europe.

You have to remember that there were no white people or black people in the modern borders of America ~500 years ago. So you would be looking at native american stuff… but you run into problems because there’s basically nothing to select from. Almost all native american themed shows are within the recent past (guns are involved).

Some English speaking American (sometimes British) produced TV shows in an ‘ancient’ setting before guns:

1. Rome - set in ancient Rome, loosely follows the life of Caesar and then Augustus in season 2.
2. Spartacus - set in ancient Rome, Spartacus is a slave who rebels against the Roman republic.
3. The Borgias - set in renaissance Italy and about the fight of a ‘foreign’ Spanish family who has lived in Rome a long time. It’s about the politics of the Catholic Church and the fight to become pope and spiritual ‘leader’ of Europe.
4. Vikings - set in Europe, main characters are vikings and deals with their lives, their raids and wars and stuff.
5. The Last Kingdom - set in England, the opposite perspective of Vikings which is focused on telling the story from the perspective of the vikings. This time the perspective is from an English boy who was captured as a slave and defects after his adoptive viking family is massacred.

Now all these shows are going to have some degree of nudity, sexuality and violence so be prepared. Some will have a lot more (I would say of my list Spartacus probably has the most, maybe The Borgias with the least).

But like Nirvana in Fire? I would probably recommend Gladiator which is a movie set in ancient Rome. The theme is revenge.

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yes dancers with wolves, and may I note was supposed to be a true story as well and no there isn’t really anything like nirvana on fire in that time era here in America 1. Boston tea party 2. sons of liberty 3 paul revere there were many movies on the revolutionary war as well as the war between the states, this one special “Maybe” and thatsGone with the wind. ,

there were some native american ones too, what about a mystery (Lost colony) not like what we are looking for of course. ok thats enough. hope you find what you are looking for. might could find some Mexican type stories Zorro???

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**Author:** ![simi11](https://discussions.viki.com/user_avatar/www.viki.com/simi11/32/82404_2.png) [@simi11](https://discussions.viki.com/u/simi11)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://discussions.viki.com/t/is-there-an-american-drama-similar-to-nirvana-in-fire/18204/6 "2017-12-21T22:00:03Z")

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I can only think of “Gone with the Wind” but it’s rather a love story and the certainly North and South, by John Jakes.  
And I love this sad movie Dances With Wolves, but it could be closer to Tribes and Empires… [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0obOvGGb1U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0obOvGGb1U)

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 10:58am UTC](https://discussions.viki.com/t/is-there-an-american-drama-similar-to-nirvana-in-fire/18204/7 "2017-12-22T10:58:54Z")

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simi11 you are so right! more of that one. I have just started watching that one. oh my! also Nirvana in fire 11,  
Question though about Nirvana 2, is it linked with the first one, Kind of confused about this. maybe I need to go back and rewatch #1.
