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What are you guys currently watching?


#170

I’m finishing up Cheese in the Trap…I really like how imperfect everyone is in that drama. The college stress is so relatable!

I finally got caught up with When the Camellia Blooms and I am totally enjoying Kang Ha Neul’s performance! I forget he is Kang Ha Neul and not Young Sik :smile:


#171

@helenama73_911

I like KHN role in this drama bc it’s so nerdy and funny at the same time. I just finished watching THE GREAT SHOW here at viki. I hope you check it out too. Is different and you can skip the (boring) parts you don’t want to see

I’m watching right now C.H.O:S:E.N it’s a taiwanese modern drama with the guy from Easy fortune Happy Life. Action Packed with a decent ending.


#172

I’m currently watching Confession ( 2019) and I think it is one of the best K-Dramas I have ever watched. Great story plot with unexpected twists, character development and excellent performances.


#175

You’re not suppose to mention other websites, especially the illegal ones. Better delete the post before Viki staff sees it.
At any rate, a google search is enough to bring up the links to all the places where you can watch the drama of your choice.


#178

Sadly it is even though the guidelines just talk about online ‘content you don’t own’ (that is their definition of do not talk about other pages no matter if it is official producer page or other legal streaming page).

It’s quite silly though since they do not ban trailer links (or mentioning of trailers on other pages).

(I asked at help center about that since this page has most unclear wording in their guidelines I’ve ever seen)

PS:

irmar is right if they see it or if others report you your post gets banned.


#179

I’m pretty sure the site you mentioned is an illegal streaming site.


#180

Surely the content (the videos) is pirated. They don’t pay licenses and they steal the subtitles either from NTF, from KCW or from Viki - whoever has them first (I have checked this multiple times - sometimes they even have our mistakes, which afterwards get edited on Viki but not there). This is surely big time illegal.


#184

We already had Asian productions (anime, certain Chinese and Korean shows/movies) in our TV and cinema long time before the internet even existed so if you think without internet ‘no one’ in Europe would know Asian culture you are wrong. (We always had other international productions as well).

You can get anything for free today not just Asian shows. The main difference is that at least Chinese producers provide a huge amount of shows to international viewers officially while countries like Japan Korea, USA, EU countries etc. are geoblock lovers who don’t even allow people to watch most of their content on their official page (that includes pay2watch streaming pages as well, even when you are within EU you don’t get access to the same content so, e.g one EU member has different shows than another/more seasons of the same show than another).

One can travel without borders but can not watch everything online even though the internet doesn’t need these virtual geoblock borders.

(That includes VIKI that blocks 99% of the Kdramas I find interesting, the page even suggests new Kdramas to me that are geoblocked for my location :space_invader:)


#187

I think it’s more about country’s grown relationships and domination of already established old market ‘owners’, e.g within book market. Usually German publishers mainly, in some cases only, translate what is a) American anyway or b) already published and published in the USA.

The way they treat the Western fans of manga is terrible (that’s why the fan translation scene is so strong) and even though it is popular for decades most manga are still not available here or those that were available here often got cancelled in the middle…

It’s similar with many recent Chinese novels that are only fan translated and rarely published for Western readers. (If you look at the clicks of certain stories you’ll see that some are popular here as well).

So I think the old structures how licensing/publishing works (and its aspects where to publish what) are outdated because it often ignores the world citizen feeling of today’s generations.


#188

When the subbers create content on the Viki website, the content becomes Viki’s property. To say it in detail, we still have the rights to our subs and we can use them in a non-commercial way, so we cannot share them to rival websites.
See the Terms of Use article 8 paragraph 3:
You retain all of your ownership rights in your Subtitle Submissions.
Rakuten Viki does not permit use of the Rakuten Viki Services for copyright infringing activities.
In article 11 it says:

11. PROHIBITED CONDUCT

  1. use the Rakuten Viki Services for any illegal purpose, or in violation of any local, state, national, or international law, including, without limitation, laws governing intellectual property and other proprietary rights, and data protection and privacy;
  2. use the Rakuten Viki Services for any commercial use, it being understood that the Rakuten Viki Services is for personal, non-commercial use only;

This, in simple words, means that, although we retain the intellectual property of our subs, we cannot use those subs to help websites which infringe copyright.

In the same way, Viki forbids us to copy paste subtitles from other websites
In the Terms of Use (article 8)

1> . You further agree that User Generated Content you submit to the Rakuten Viki Services will not contain third party copyrighted material, or material that is subject to other third-party proprietary rights, unless you have permission from the rightful owner of the material or you are otherwise legally entitled to post the material and to grant Rakuten Viki all of the license rights granted herein.
2. You further agree that you will not submit to the Rakuten Viki Services any User Generated Content or other material that is contrary to the Rakuten Viki Community, applicable local, national, and international laws and regulations.

The same is said, in a different way, in the Volunteer Guidelines:

No inappropriate subtitling, which may include but is not limited to:

  • Copying subtitles from a non-Viki source

In reality, all dramas and films are intellectual property of a TV-station or entertainment production company. Hence it is illegal to stream, download and share them without payment. Regardless of whether a particular video or genre is popular or not in one of the world’s countries.
Because these sites make money from advertisement (and from premium subscriptions to remove ads), using a content (the videos) they haven’t paid. Just as Viki and other legal streaming sites make money from advertisement (and for subscriptions to remove ads), but pays licenses for that.

You really haven’t taken the time to go to Help Center and read Guidelines, have you? It’s written multiple times.

Here on Community Guidelines:

Be conscious of our uniquely diverse community and refrain from sharing the following:

  • Marketing, advertising, spamming or soliciting of outside services or websites

Here on Discussion Guidelines:

Advertising, spamming or soliciting of outside services or websites, including softsubs
Posting or uploading illegal content of any kind
Downloading copyrighted materials, or making them available for download

And also on Comment Guidelines:

Comment Policy

Please refrain from posting the following in Comments, Timed Comments, and Reviews:

  • Links, embeds, or mentions of external streaming sites
  • Downloading copyrighted materials, or making them available for download
  • Advertising, spamming or soliciting of outside services or websites, including softsubs

“Making available for download” of course includes giving the name of a website where they can be downloaded. Q.E.D.


#190

Sorry if I am involving myself in a situation than doesn’t have anything to do with me but I don’t think they mean anything other than stopping the VIKI staff from blocking you for not following the guidelines.


#191

Fight my ways awesome!!!


#193
  1. You can also download from most streaming websites, including that one. Look better. I seem to be better acquainted with that particular website than you are, LOL.
  2. You’re not supposed to download from Youtube - even if there are numerous ways to do it.
  3. You’re definitely not supposed to download from Viki, and it’s VERY difficult to do so, most browser extensions meant for this don’t work.

Here is the relevant article 7 from the Terms of Use:

"INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OWNERSHIP" ' click the arrow to read it

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You’ll get yourself in trouble, that’s why. I’m trying to protect you, but you don’t seem to understand that.

FYI, I also regularly visit those streaming websites, when I cannot find what I want on Viki. We’re just not supposed to mention them here. When in Rome, do as Romans do. Duh!


#194

To quote a friend of mine, “The best weight you’ll ever lose is the weight of other people’s opinions.” Now that’s a diet I can follow through :sweat_smile::grin:


#195

secret life of my secretary, looks like it may be a good one.
the actor from “look out” with a problem not being able to recognize peoples faces, almost “like the stranger,” with the guy having surgery as a child for anger issues, and no emotions, and he also had surgery as a child .but yeah I know this is a bit different. Just hope for a good ending!

just curious about those surgeries, any nurses /doctors out there can you explain why at an early age these surgeries, or are these just writers imaginations??


#196

ok my 3 cents worth above messages; look guys, follow rules right? yeah occasionally I will mention You tube or Netflix. as fro trying to download from other links, sure I tried, but that link stops me saying not appropriate or my computer(compatable) isn’t right for it. so I don’t even try. sur if I don’t find a drama here yeah I search elsewhere. and my 3 cents. Viki is tops with the videos, and subs. as for the Roku, I have found other links, but still I go back to Viki Rakuten! just saying!!

The best weight you’ll ever lose is the weight of others peoples opinions! amen to that one!! yep s dirt I can follow through. thanks Adrian


#197

tell me about fight my way


#198

I just finished watching Stairway to Heaven, a 2003-2004 kdrama, and oh boy was it good! Sure, it has all of the kdrama tropes we see today (mean stepmom and stepsister, two male leads in love with one female lead, the famed piggyback–done several times–, lovers met as children, amnesia, breakup, illness, and lots of love) but it still touched me unlike a lot of modern kdramas that follow the same pattern. If I can give it some comparison without too many spoilers, I would say it is a mix between the kmovie Temptation of Wolves and the kdrama That Winter, the Wind Blows, but with its own flair. The acting was on-spot and it felt so real…now I must go and heal my hurting heart somehow…


#200

the bride of habak, Korean Odessy, the love knot his excellency’s first love,(about the foxes coming to earth, changed into humans) just something different for me.

as for the one I was watching the secret life of my secretary, it was good to a certain point, the ending could have been better.


#201

I just finished watching Winter Sonata. I have to watch all of the season-themed dramas in the series now :neutral_face::smile: Not my fav classic, I liked Stairway to Heaven better, but the OST for Winter Sonata is legendary! I haven’t stopped playing it, and I found the piano sheet music for the main melody of the drama to learn it.

Maybe I’ll start Beautiful Days, or Autumn in my Heart. I seem to be having a Kdrama throwback lately…