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Recommend:

The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez

It was hard to watch (warning message to the audience at the beginning). Honestly, I couldn’t sleep after watching it. But I’ve got to know.

  • I’ve liked the format: a documentary series.

  • Liked the main speaker: The main speaker for this documentary is the real prosecutor of the case. They also interviewed prosecutors, jury, reporters and the victim’s family.

  • Liked the seriousness of the subject and how it was brought: child abuse.
    More specifically, child abuse in California by the parents figure and how the 8-year-old child died despite the numerous calls from the teacher to the child protective services. How did nobody step in to save the child whereas there was raw evidence that the child was tortured? Carelessness? Big mistakes from the police, the social workers, the school’s director? Why the chain that was supposed to protect the child didn’t work?
    It was the first time that American social workers (= public officers that represent the State) had to defend themselves to prove their innocence in a child’s murder case.

  • Other things that as a viewer I’ve learnt from this:
    – the system is not perfect. Even if services’ goal is to protect children (humans who are the most vulnerable of our system with elders or critically ill people), they could fail in protecting them, despite the child’s “file” being followed by child protective services. It’s hard to realize that.
    – How fear or ignorance could lead to hate someone and eventually the parents’ figure (the mother and her boyfriend) to torture and kill their own child because of their belief in his sexual orientation.
    – Development of a child, importance of parents figure and their own past? The documentary shed some light on the mother’s past (drugs that lead to the frontal lobe for empathy to be reduced, raped by her uncle in her childhood).
    It also put into evidence how the child began to become aggressive at school and to separate himself from his schoolmates. He lost faith in adults.
    – Morality, morals.
    – the Death penalty. How or when can we say when someone deserves to die? Is it in men’s capacity?
    And if our own child is beaten or tortured, will we kill the murderer (by a sentence or ourselves) if it’s in our power or will we pick another end if we’ve got the choice?
    – Parents love.

I wanted to know more about how to raise children.
So I read a book that was written by a psychologist and a mother who is not Danish but her husband is Danish. I’ve learned that Danish people have been the happiest in the world for 40 years according to this book and the authors explained that it was partly thanks to “hygge.”

(I hope it’s doable. Is there any Danish here?)
Then the authors talk about violence and corporal punishments towards children and said it was legally allowed to hit children with a stick or a cane to educate them at school in 19 states of America and it was legally allowed in all private schools of America!

The effects of corporal punishments on children’s development are disastrous and they’re also ineffective in the long term (a study that lasted 20 years).
Effects were like depression, lack of self-love, lying behavior to avoid being beaten, mental health, anxiety, alcoholism, substance addiction, aggressivity


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I haven’t seen the documentary because it hits too close to home. Because I live in the same city as him, I remember reading about his death in a newspaper and crying. I was enraged at how he had been treated and how he died. Just sickening how it was allowed to happen.

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Here are the facts about school corporal punishment, country by country. And that’s just school. What happens at home is anyone’s guess.
If you look up Asian countries like Corea you’ll be even more sickened. Corporal punishment in Corea was banned only in 2014 and the parents revolted against it.
This article, from January 2019, claims that

At present, Nepal and Mongolia are the only countries in Asia with legislation banning all forms of corporal punishment in all settings. Some, like the Philippines, are in the process of doing so

Here is a really weird website. It has lots and lots of info, including articles, pictures and videos, but it is very unpleasant to navigate because of the tone of writing, which appears to be in favour of “correct” and “harmless” corporal punishment. Yuck!

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:raised_hand: Dane here! Anything in particular you want to ask?

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I’ve learnt on your link that even France didn’t forbid corporal punishment explicitly!
But some other countries in Europe like Spain, Greece or Italy have forbidden it explicitly and even Germany considered it as a criminal offence!

The Diplomat’s article you put responds to what the authors were saying in terms of teaching violence to children towards schoolmates and family while the teacher or parents use violence.
And when they become adults and have children in the future, they tend to reproduce their childhood or how parents taught them. Hopefully, it’s not always the case.

I’m surprised that in Asia, it’s considered as socially and culturally accepted and normal to hit children to educate them. Even that Indonesian parents don’t question this rule, saying it’s part of discipline.

I didn’t click on the weird website, I prefer to follow your comment.

Hello Dane!

Yes, thank you for showing up!
So you see, I was reading a book about how come Danish people have been the happiest in the world for about 40 years. And in the book, they talked about one aspect in particular, which is “hygge,” that Danish parents use to raise their children.
Then when children grow into adults, we can see that they see life differently than other countries’ citizens. In their perception, their problem resolution, their social interactions with their peers, their teamwork and even family relaxing time spent together, we see that we have a difficult culture in this aspect.

And I found it really interesting! Maybe I would have the opportunity to try hygge one day!

So my questions are:

  • What is “hygge” exactly?
  • Do you have some tips from your own experience or from what you could hear from your Danish friends and family?

I was also so surprised to learn that in Denmark, each mother has a midwife coming to their house to check on the baby and the mother less than a week after the baby’s birth. And during this visit, the midwife gives contacts of the other new mothers living in the same neighborhood, telling also if it’s their 1st, 2nd or 3rd baby, so they could help the new mother.
And then, these mothers would meet each week to share experiences and support to each mom!
They told that when you become a new mom, you’re under a lot of stress because it’s a whole new role for the mom, she lacks sleep and has less social interactions than before. On the contrary, friends, family and parents groups who surround the new family will help to reduce this stress, which is also good for the baby because the baby can feel it. Making these new moms groups is not a bad idea at all!

The word hygge is special to us and cannot be translated to one single word. It roughly translates to coziness or pleasant togetherness, but it means so much more. Hygge is something you do, something you feel. It’s a concept. It’s a lifestyle.

Hygge is a feeling of comfort and contentment as well as indulging in all the good things and people in your life. Hygge means creating a warm atmosphere, cozying up with a loved one for a movie or sitting around with friends and family, talking about the big and small things in life. It is about being good to yourself - indulging, having a nice time, not denying yourself anything. It is basically an expression for enjoying the simple things in life and I think that resonates with a lot of people.

Most parents I know often spend Sundays cozying up on the couch with their children, watching a movie or playing games while still in their pyjamas and eating whatever they feel like. I believe that much of our behavior as parents comes from our default settings, learned in childhood and absorbed from our surroundings. In Denmark, we emphasize wellbeing through interdependence. Children start school aged six and until the age of 10 finish the day at two o’clock, with the afternoon dedicated to free play. The curriculum prioritizes teamwork and building empathy rather than individual achievement. And it’s true what you read about these so called moms groups. Our health system does simple but effective things such as link new mothers up with others in their area for support in the crucial first few months.

Danes have incorporated hygge into their daily lives. It is an essential part of who we are and what we do. It’s an idea so rooted in the Danish sense of togetherness and some might struggle to grasp the social significance. Someone once said, “Hygge was never meant to be translated. It was meant to be felt.” Maybe the only way to understand this cultural idea is to visit Denmark.

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No, you should, because the material he has gathered is astonishing, he’s done a very good job collecting it. The website has hundreds if not thousands of pages, it’s from all time periods and from all over the world, you can search by country if you want. His comments on the resources (articles, videos and pictures) are sometimes off-putting because of what he believes, but this doesn’t diminish the educational value of his research.

Thank you!!
I’m also surprised that you talk about the default settings and the interdependance! Are you the writer of this book? :grin:
Things I could memorize were about this default setting mode (when someone is pushed to his limits, he goes back to his own default setting mode and that’s where corporal punishement could be inflicted for ex) and the interdependance between individuals. Danish people seem to have a strong sense of community (like at school and at home, children don’t learn how to be the best or their schedule are not packed with a marathon of extra activities and like you said, they finish school earlier. The accent is put on how to live together. Like recognizing their own strengths and weaknesses as an individual and how to work it out with others’ strengths and weak spots. Or not sticking tags to people: like separating the behaviour of the person and the person. It could help children not to devaluate themselves because some people say they are difficult children. It’s not the child, it’s his behaviour that is difficult.
Or not feeding their ego, but hard work to have this result.

It’s something really striking in the Danish culture and I think it would help a lot of children and future parents worldwide, but even the society as a community.

It would be interesting to see if some studies could find some correlation between the criminality rate, the poverty rate and hygge.

Yes, would like to travel to Denmark!

If there’s no trial or justice at stake or it’s not done by a reporter to denounce it, but an apology to it, then I’d rather not read or see it because it’s already hard to see pictures and videos, it’s reality and seeing the author is promoting violence inflicted to children to discipline them

Not promoting violence towards children was the most important educationnal point to me.

When there is no ethics, can it be called professionalism?

Thanks for all the links though!

As I said, the articles are articles, and many of them are denounciations of it. Others just state the facts, the laws and the situation in various countries.
He also denounces what he calls the extreme or incorrect forms of violence.
Maybe I shouldn’t have stated upfront my own reaction because in so doing I’ve deprived you of a useful tool for knowledge.

Is it for or not for?

There are books I’m not planning to read like Mein Kampf or the best murder written by a real murderer. These titles are excluded generally from students reading lists at school. I think we can understand why even if some parts of historical content could be considered as educational worthy value.

Even if the authors have been intelligent, their books have been a success (fascination or taste for the forbidden
 whatever) and the content may have a lot of ideas and leads to understand their mind or the period or their beliefs, they have picked a different path that I can’t relate to.

But outside of school or generally in life, anyone is free to read and watch what he wants and analyze it.

I’m also not reading on purpose to be able to sleep, just like Helena with the documentary :grin:

But of course, reading a summary or watching a preview is fine, too.

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