General Discussion: The thread is open to express whatever you want to write about

It might be new to you (which is a bit surprising), but writing everything in CAPS onlne has been considered shouting/yelling since the 80s, even before internet was widely used by the public.

Here are a few online Neiquette info on using Caps.

http://netiquette.wikia.com/wiki/Rule_number_2_-_Do_not_use_all_caps
https://newrepublic.com/article/117390/netiquette-capitalization-how-caps-became-code-yelling
http://www.education.com/reference/article/netiquette-rules-behavior-internet/

Good luck!

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What a topic. :slight_smile: Honestly, I think that if more of us took over and tried to make those old dramas move along, we could get them done. It takes time and effort but it is doable. One thing that I think Viki should emphasize for new volunteers, is the option to start to gain experience on older dramas. The only issue are seggers. I’m a firm believer that people should be trained. The difference between segments done by someone trained and someone who was not, is huge. I’ve been both, so I know.

But subbers should really start with older dramas. Everyone wants to do the most popular on-air drama and that’s just not possible for everyone. I have found new volunteers who have been helpful in finishing up some of the dramas that were abandoned. Case in point, “Jewel in the Palace.” The team was able to finish it in Spanish due to volunteers coming in, even it wasn’t the newest drama. We were all very proud to be able to have it complete.

When we ask for each other’s help, most of the time, people will say yes. I’ve been lucky to meet many Vikians, who have been extremely helpful in completing older projects. It would take forever to name them all but they know who they are. They make Viki enjoyable and the reason I’m still here working on projects, even if slowly. We keep trying. :slight_smile:

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@ christina_Love your name! Why not mention the others? Please…

I clearly wrote it is a work in progress, exactly for the reason you stated earlier, badly made segments. That takes a lot to fix when there are already subtitles in them and you’re trying to preserve them. When they’re ready I’ll let people know.

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Hello !

  • For scrolling down directly to comments section under any video, there’s a comic strip speech bubble
    (on the main page of the drama too).

  • To go back from comments section > top of your page, there’s no Viki button but you have browser shortcuts.
    I know that on Chrome on my computer, I can tap to go directly at the top/bottom of any webpage :
    Fn + Left arrow / Right arrow
    (or you have “end” key and a diagonal arrow on your keyboard)

  • To go up/down on a page more slowly, I can tap Fn + Up / Down on Chrome.

So maybe, you can look for your browser shorcuts navigation.

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@piranna I see you are watching Nirvana in Fire aka best chinese drama ever. I am so happy!!!

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Calm down, calm down, let’s stay civil. (This is a note to myself.)

It I had to pick one part of your post to focus on… Define what “garbage” is and what kind of content you want off the site. There’s that saying, ‘one man’s trash is another man’s treasure.’ You can survey people all you want, but there is no way to satisfy everyone. In that sense, I don’t think deleting content is all that sensible. Someone will get angry. But if they do delete content, it will be after licenses expire, and not just at their whim; I’m sure the business team reviews revenue and stuff like that when they make the decision to keep a show or not.

There are many features I’d like improved or added, but to get rid of, hmmm…

  • One liners
    Definitely. Though I’ve never really used the feature, it seems poorly integrated into the rest of the system. No context naturally makes for awkward subs, and then what even happens to the one liners that people create? (Although I actually think a rating system for subs would be interesting to see. It just doesn’t feel like it would work with Viki’s model, because if you change the subs for English, you’ll have an ‘error’ that persists through other languages.)

  • Reviews and ratings
    I usually like having ratings, because even if they’re ‘inaccurate’, I can get a baseline for things, but the longer I see how misused the review/rating system is, the more I want it gone. There are no subs: 1 star. This series is not yet available: 1 star. This series is going to be amazing once it airs: 10 stars. I really liked this show: 4 stars. This section is just a waste of space on my page at this point.

  • Non-English comments
    This is somewhat unrealistic as Viki is a site with viewers all over the world. But you asked. I’m not suggesting that everyone should know or learn English. I just don’t want to see the comments that aren’t in English, whether that means everyone must type in English or if comment sections are divided by language, etc.

On the opposite, I would say it’s useful. Not everybody speaks english. Or else we’d only have english subs here.

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I believe that many of the ideas that everyone contributed in this post are relevant, all should have the same desire to make the Viki a comfortable place, social and something we put aside differences; I agree with some points of view said here… :no_mouth:

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A succession of tiny paragraphs is as annoying as a paragraph that’s too long.

-William Zinsser.

Viki should add some sort of code where ONLY people who actually have the Ninja / Seg. 101 badge on their profile can segment; this will prevent any newbies from creating segs.

You are Spanish, right? Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind for when the English is done.

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You seem to have a control “thing”, don’t you? Dictating what people should or should not write in the reply to this thread.
Yes, you are the creator of the thread, but this doesn’t mean you get to moderate it and censor replies in advance. A discussion on the proposed changes is healthy and interesting, in my opinion, instead of just each person’s wish list. And it will allow viki staff, if they visit this thread, to get a more complete idea of what different people think about different proposals, which are the most popular and why, the arguments for and against. Debating is the basis of democracy and civilized discussion.

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Okay… I have been over here on the discussions for more than 3 years now. I have been part in a big amount threads and i also had plenty of discussion over here (which is literally the name of this page)

If you create a topic and state your opinion then its means you expect others to answer. If someone wants to point out that they don’t think your idea would work they have the right to type it. On the other hand you also have the right to ignore it if you really don’t want an exchange of opinions. What you demand here is that people only write down what they think but not react to any other posts.In addition to that @irmar didn’t offend you in anyway. She was explaining that maybe your ideas could become problematic in reality and explained why she wouldn’t change that. Then she agreed at one point and stated that she would change the one liners. I am not sure how long it has been for you in an online forum but this is how it works. We can’t tell people to do this and that.

Also no one can know that you have some problem with your sight. You asked yourself as to why everyone thinks you are shouting. People explained and even gave you alternatives to make its easier for you. I am not in a position to tell you to do anything or not but as someone who spent a lot of time here this is an advice.

Wish you a nice evening

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I think a bullet form summary and paragraphs could have been easier on the eye

  • I think Viki should include some old dramas also in their display on main page, one more way to get more exposure.
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Why doesn’t Turkey show up in the list of countries anymore? There used to be a number of Turkish dramas on here, including Merhamet which was mostly subtitled and really good.

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Ho ho, someone took the name of the thread seriously!

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adding just my 2 cents:

  • although in general disliked, the Viki One Liner got me started into trying for subs, as a newbie I preferred only watching shows, I didn’t have time to start a new project in my life, being involved where I thought I must commit still not knowing to what exactly. I noticed after “rating subs” that it’s impossible to rate correctly if you don’t know the context… some are easy to translate word by word or even rate. The next step I took with Project Finder and the encouragement of LACruiser, I think I was one of the “where are the subs” complainer :grin:

  • I believe that if some dramas that have the bad segging or subs are likely Project Finder dramas, where people sub without knowing even the rules… or the VOL subs are added in them… sometimes Viki puts dramas that have been requested but not shown yet (shown much later) into the Project Finder and then even if there is a team assembled who just waits for the sign or has started working, there will be subs from outsiders who sub without contacting the CM as it states. Viki needs to change that from CM to the Moderator…

  • I think in overall whatever channels Viki approves whether they are subbed or not is good, there will be always someone who appreciates them (and complains about them not subbed), the availability is better than axe them for not finishing subs. As we know lots of fan channels (fully subbed) have been axed due the licensing issue but some of them were luckily added back.

  • I think since this site is fully supported by volunteers, you will always find gaps here and there although the majority volunteers work diligently, some folks aren’t perfect, perhaps also because they don’t understand the process of how viki works yet, some get enthusiastic at the beginning and run out of the steam later or have life changes. And that’s ok, in the end we still can be happy that Viki is there for us who love Asian dramas and give us the opportunity to work on them. It will always be impossible to please everyone. But their support is there and they do listen, even if we think they don’t :blush:

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A well stated post, in it’s entirety. :dizzy::star2:

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Thank you, and when I read my old posts I do wonder who wrote them, it’s kinda funny and strange at the same time… I want to print all my posts and comments :joy:

I still remember the Korean drama, it was a historical that Viki had and removed, and I wrote in comments about the missing subs… I had no clue then, lmao:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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