I'm sorry but Timed Comments need to go!

I’m not watching an episode and doing nothing else. I’m doing the translation and English editing. So I don’t have time to deal with the brutish nonsense on a second screen. Other browser pages have things I need to look up for translation notes to add and other items.

Yes, we all have different things that we do. And there’s enough choices for us on viki to select to do what we like/find important.

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So, in the first example, what did you delete? 2nd and 3rd comment?

For the second example, I don’t BTS member’s names enough to moderate those comments :smile:

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth, timed comments are too hard to keep monitored. I have a drama with over 70 episodes and to go through each episode individually over and over again is impossible. Comments keep getting added as long as the Channel is there. It would be nice to have an option for managers to be able to deal with all the episodes at once and then later see if new comments have been added or something like that. That may be too much to ask.

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As a Moderator of your language you are supposed to monitor or edit inappropriate Timed Comments, it’s in the Manage Video section, it’s an arduous work.

Whenever I am moderator (of any language) on a channel, I make it my work to also clean the timed comments.
If I have nothing to do and feel very diligent, I go there before the subs are complete. If I feel lazy, I just go once, when the episode reaches 99-100%. I delete the following:

  • sub whining
  • swear words starting with f*, including acronyms like AF, wtf, omfg and “clever” substitutions like “dafuq”.
  • where the viewer is located and the time they’re watching
  • k-pop fandom discussions. Search for BTS, Army, EXO will bring them immediately.
  • nasty fights between users, with name-calling etc.
  • extreme insults to actors’ looks
  • ageist remarks like “she’s much too old for him, it’s a turn-off for me”. “He should be paired with young and pretty actresses”. “She looks like his aunt”.
  • racist remarks (thankfully there are very few of these)
  • Inflammatory remarks which may make actors’ life difficult: “Oh, what will her husband think of this kissing scene?” “She should only do romantic scenes with her husband” “Song, where are you to see your wife kissing your best friend?”
  • “I’m first” (usually when I see it the person is already tenth)
  • Temporary translations kindly provided by Korean viewers before the subs are ready. We’re all thankful to them, but when the subs are there, these are redundant and can be deleted.
  • Comments on awkward sub translations, written when the episode was not edited yet. After editing, the sub has been corrected, so the comment may be deleted.
  • Comments of an overt sexual nature like “She wants the D” or much much worse (no, I won’t give you examples here)
  • Whining about ads, Vikipass, reminiscing of Dramafever, mentioning other websites (legal or illegal)
  • Answers to questions that have already been answered. If someone asked for the name of a song, and it was answered twice, we don’t need it four times.

Most moderators don’t bother doing this, they consider it a boring chore.
So I also go through the Spanish, Portuguese and sometimes French looking for sub-whining comments. Although my knowledge of Portuguese is much much poorer, still I understand the sentences for “no Portuguese subtitles?” and “Portuguese subtitles please”.

I enjoy timed comments too much to turn them off. I just want them to be an enjoyable experience for everybody. That’s why, although it’s boring work, I do it gladly, and only after that do I watch the episode.

Yes, after a month or so, some new offensive comments will appear. But not that many as when the drama first aired, and surely not the sub-whining, since subs are available.
Moreover, future commenters, seeing that nobody uses that sort of language (because it has been deleted, of course, but they don’t know that), are not encouraged to use it themselves. Some still do, but it’s less.

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Thank you, @irmar, that really helped to get an idea what could be considered for removal.

:laughing:

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:loudspeaker: Welcome back!

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In the first example I deleted the first 3 and for the 2nd I deleted the whole situation around BTS because it was unrelated to the drama.

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I remember when I first started watching viki site and found the time comments so hilarious. The jokes were so clean, and it was so much fun to read them.

Now, I turn off the time comments completely! I don’t bother anymore bc some comments are so disgusting I just can’t stand the thought of finding another comment like that.

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Basically what the timed comments have turned into (the things you correct for) :sweat_smile:
Sometimes there are dramas where the majority of the comments are funny and none of the things you have mentioned.

Most of the time though… they are the things you mentioned.

Another type of comment I have seen pop up more and more is the comparisons between Dramafever and Viki, f.e. I liked Dramafever better / I like Viki better, Dramafever didn’t / did do X… etc. and that sometimes sparks a comment war as well.

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Now that DF has closed down, many of its users have come here. So I suppose it’s natural that those people compare the two. They have still to get used to the Viki way which is very different, concerning upload times and subtitles.

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The only timed comments that bother me are the ones who insult actors, actresses, etc needlessly. And people who complain about K-Pop fans. I don’t even find K-Pop fans comment annoying it’s the people who bring so much attention to it that annoy me. They’re always like “This isn’t about them stop commenting” blah blah, yet the only people I usually see them do that to are BTS fans. EXO fans, BTOB, and whoever elses fans can comment all they want about the K-Pop group they like and there won’t be a word about it. Also people who give shit to the subbers.

Surprised you have comments left after you take out that long list. :slight_smile: Matter of fact, your list of offenses you remove are nearly all the comments - it’s much simpler to just turn them off or delete the whole lot of them.

Frankly, I would like a “delete all” key with a way to go through and flag what’s really not nice.

And…once that drama is at 100 percent in a language and edited, I would like a way to LOCK that and not have to keep dealing with it, sorry.

OR overlords who do it weekly to prevent any influx of really offensive words. I’m getting tired of the C word and a few other choice once or someone’s obsession with every word a person says. (Example: the guy who has an Ariel Lin obsession and comments EVERY WORD SHE SPEAKS).

Glad you are blessed with the added time to do all of that. :slight_smile:

picks up soapbox, and walks out, stage left…

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I think that’s mainly because some fans comment much more about their idols than other fans. And people tend to get morre annoyed if there are many comments about one certain gorup in almost every episode or only a few throughout the whole drama.

Whenever I am a TC moderator, I remove all comments that have nothing to do with the drama. That includes comments about K-pop and K-Pop Idols. The only exception is when a K-Pop idol is acting in that particular drama. Then it is only natural that people comment about him/her.

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I must be tired or something, but… what is the C word? Could you mean the female reproductive organ? I don’t see it often at all. (Maybe in C-dramas it is used more than in K-dramas?)

You’d be surprised. After the purge, there are still lots of comments - some of them hilariously funny comments that are a joy to read.
Actually, I’m doing this because I actually love timed comments. Whenever I watch something “elsewhere” I sorely miss them, it feels so empty…

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I know what you mean. Sometimes I see something really funny somewhere else and I go to click to turn the comments on (the only time I pay attention to the comments) and it’s not there. But I also know that on some platforms the comments would be even more toxic.

Recently I watch an episode of a drama (can’t remember which one) and it was full of funny comments, I didn’t need to turn it off at all. It rarely happens, but when it does, I appreciate the option of timed comments :wink:

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I found that the timed comments help me watch scary dramas. I feel less alone, and sometimes someone makes a funny joke and makes me laugh off the stress. Otherwise, I won’t watch scary dramas without them. Besides, they can call attention to things in the background that I never would have noticed. For example, I was recently watching The Village Achiara’s Secret and there was a scene where SungJae was in the foreground (he was part of the cast) and the rest of the BTOB members were in the background, but I would never have noticed if people didn’t point that out using the timed comments.
I also do find that name-calling in the TC is wearisome…I wish people just said positive or productive things about the cast, storyline, drama, etc. And yes, appropriate jokes are very much appreciated imo :smile:

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I did that on Hot Blood Dance Crew. The language in there was something I haven’t even seen on YouTube. Truly, really disgusting, graphic and not repeatable. Had a note back asking me to give the times of each comment I was referring to. If I tried to do that, I would not be able to eat/sleep for the next 5 years! This is where it sort of ticks me off that Viki doesn’t enforce their own rules and Terms of Use. I agree with adrianmorales…there is NO need for the timed comments anymore, since they are becoming more vicious.

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I must be missing the comments with offensive language. The worst I usually see is “he’s ugly” or “she’s ugly” and I don’t really understand why. It’s just a TV show or movie. They’re not ugly. Just makes the commenter seem incredibly shallow (or delusional if they’re saying it because they want to “support” their boyband favorite who’s in the show).

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