Haircare 💇‍♀️

[piranna]

Hello!

I’m looking for tips/haircare ritual and recommended haircare products from all over the world
What do you recommend from what you’ve tested?
How to add more volume to your hair?
Do you have a haircare ritual that you want to share?

One of my friend told me she slept with olive oil on her hair when she wanted to treat it. I’ve never tried it, but I might have soon because of bad habits (colored hair, washing it everyday, dry hair that greases the day after shampoo).

Thank you in advance

[tisoal]

Salut, personnellement j’ai les cheveux bouclés donc aucun problème au niveau du volume, mais je sais que pour ma mère le shampooing Elseve FIBRALOGY est efficace !

Pour les cheveux qui graissent, Elseve à l’argile, Le petit marseillais à l’argile-lait de jasmin, et citron-orties (l’odeur est mieux que ce qu’on pourrait penser mdr) et Timotei (au thé vert) sont très bien je trouve.
Par contre, il faut vraiment que tu essaies de ne plus te laver les cheveux chaque jour ! C’est aussi ça qui fait qu’ils graissent plus vite, et les shampooings ne seront pas très utiles si tu gardes cette habitude Je te conseille de ne pas les laver pendant 3-4 jours quand tu seras en vacances et à l’abri des regards Ensuite ça devrait aller mieux si tu t’en tiens à un shampooing tous les 2-3 jours.

Sinon je n’ai pas de rituel, seulement que je ne sèche jamais mes cheveux au sèche-cheveux. J’utilise aussi une huile mais c’est pour les cheveux bouclés secs donc ça ne te conviendrait pas !

Ah et il paraît aussi que rincer les cheveux à l’eau froide les renforce ! Mais je n’en ai pas le courage

Voilà, en espérant avoir apporté quelques solutions

[piranna]

Coucou Tisoal !

AAAH que ça fait un bien fou de parler en français Merci

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Sous-titre : Quoi ? Tout ça ! Je cours les acheter !

Je vais écouter tes conseils pour les cheveux !
Le Timotei au thé vert bio me plaît bien !
(Pour Le Petit Marseillais à l’ortie, je l’ai essayé et il sent bon et L’Oréal me donne des pellicules XD)

Je les sèche aussi tous les jours, mince ! Je n’aime pas trop les laver le soir, se coiffer le lendemain est plus difficile XD (bed hair).

Saurais-tu par un heureux hasard si le shampoing sec pourrait m’aider pour éviter de me laver les cheveux tous les jours ?

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(J’aime beaucoup regarder les reportages sur la nature et les animaux. En regardant un documentaire sur la Thaïlande, j’ai appris qu’il existait un refuge pour éléphants en Thaïlande où les touristes payaient pour les nourrir, l’argent était dévolu aux dépenses quotidiennes du refuge. Chaque année, il y a un festival des éléphants en Thaïlande qui rassemble des foules. Certains éleveurs d’éléphants (les “maouts” en Thaïlandais) ont des crochets. J’ai regardé ce reportage
(Extrait éléphant)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL956tK0-nM

Là, tu as le reportage complet (pas que sur les éléphants mais sur la Thaïlande)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U-MNd1qJMU

Anna et moi, on est toutes les deux à se dire que tu es trop adorable comme fille Merci beaucoup pour tes conseils capillaires

[tisoal]

Haha je t’en prie !

Je ne savais pas que L’Oréal pouvait donner des pellicules ! Ça ne me l’a jamais fait
Pour Timotei, ils en ont aussi à la coco pour les cheveux secs si un jour tu as ce problème
Pour le sèche-cheveux, c’est surtout pcq ça ne me convient pas que je ne les sèche qu’à la serviette : le sèche-cheveux rend mes cheveux raides et leur donne une forme de panneau de circulation triangulaire ! Après c’est vrai aussi que ce n’est pas très bon pour tes pointes !
Moi je les lave souvent le soir mais je dors avec un chouchou doux donc mes cheveux ne sont pas en bataille au réveil hahaha !

Je ne connais rien au shampoing sec, et je pense que ça peut être pratique mais pas pour remplacer les lavages de cheveux car ils recevront encore des produits ! Le but serait plutôt d’essayer de leur infliger des produits moins souvent haha.

OUAHHHH d’abord en voyant l’éléphant je me suis dit "comment elle saiiit ??? " Puis tu as mentionné Anna que je connais et alors là je ne comprends plus rien ! Je la connais, mais comment toi tu me connais ??? On a déjà parlé ensemble ? Désolée j’ai la mémoire courte ! Vraiment désolée si je t’ai oubliée
Merci du compliment en tous cas haha si je m’y attendais en te répondant !
Et merci pour les reportages j’adore ça, je les regarderai avec plaisir !

J’espère que mes conseils seront bons pour ton type de cheveux

[piranna]

Ca dépend des shampoings L’Oréal en fait XD Il faut que j’essaie ceux que tu m’as donnés. J’utilisais L’Oréal, pellicules, j’ai changé pour Frank Provost, pour revenir sur L’Oréal quand j’ai vu leur nouveau shampoing Botanicals sans silicone, sans paraben, colorant.
Pour mes cheveux colorés, raides et secs / vite gras, ça ne change pas grand chose. J’ai déjà coupé mes cheveux aux épaules pour leur refaire une santé, mais rien n’y fait même courts

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Héhé, comment je sais ? Anna est une pipelette (tu dois le savoir XD). Je ne me souviens plus très bien, mais je crois qu’elle m’a dit que c’était marrant parce qu’elle était fan des pingouins et toi des éléphants. En général, on rencontre pas mal de fans de chats sur Viki. Des fans des éléphants, c’est plus rare XD
J’ai aussi une mémoire de poisson rouge (ma seule excuse : je suis poisson, raison de plus).

C’est vraiment très gentil d’avoir cherché les images des shampoings.
Je vais tester tout ça !

[irmar]

• I never wash my hair more than once a week. Sometimes, in winter, I leave it even more. The less you wash it the better it is.
• I oil it before washing. Ideally the night before, but it’s a hassle because you have to sleep with something on your pillow. So I usually do it 4-5 hours before shampoo. Using Indian 100% pure coconut oil. Careful, some brands even have mineral oil in them, avoid them!
  If you get the bottle type, in the winter it will become solid and each time you want to use it you’d have to heat the whole bottle on the radiator to make it liquid again, so I transfer it in a wide-mouthed jar, and when I put some and rub it between my palms, it liquefies easily.

https://www.amazon.com/Parachute-Pure-Coconut-Hair-500ml/dp/B003K2RBVG

• I never brush hair when wet. I use a natural bristle brush, never metal or plastic.

• I never use hair dryers (well, maybe 1-2 times a year, if it’s really necessary)

• I never use hair irons. If I want curls, once in a blue moon, I put twists or papillottes. Or braid hair at night when it’s not completely dry, and in the morning it will be wavy. Very very seldom, boiled rollers.

• I never use styling foam or spray

• I dye it with henna, not chemical dyes.

• I use organic shampoo and conditioner. I don’t mind wearing clothes decades old with repaired holes, but for my hair I use the very best and purest products I can find. Since you’re in France, I think L’Occitane is good. I’ve used their hand creams.

• Each September, with the stress of the coming season, I experience hair loss. So from the beginning of August I start taking this supplement, called “Skin, Nails and Hair”. It works like magic. I take it for about two months. And then again, as needed, once more in the spring.
  

http://www.solgar.com/SolgarProducts/Skin-Nails-Hair-Tablets.htm

You don’t need to take that particular one, it’s okay if you find one with the same ingredients, which are shown on their page.

I’m sending you privately a video with me where my hair can be seen.

[piranna]

Oh my goodness!
You have such looong hair! It’s beautiful, it reminds me of Rapunzel hair. (btw, graceful dance)

• Indian hair is really shiny, lush, and all. I’ll surely buy this Parachute coconut hair oil, the big pot (it’s saying frizzy hair, but I guess it’s okay to use it as straight hair treatment).

When you use this coconut oil:
Do you oil even the scalp? Do you rinse it or do you wash it the next morning?

• I’ll buy a wild boar bristle brush XD (just read while looking for a bristle brush that it was the best brush with curative properties for hair)

• I don’t use styling foam neither.

• Ugh! I just bought Missha hairdye to test it because it lasts only 7 days! I suppose it was a bad idea… Henna I’ll buy from now on XD

• I bought this from L’Occitane, I haven’t tried it yet…
  

I’m not happy with L’Occitane handcreams, they smell good but don’t last long for my skin, like 4 or 5 hours (maybe my skin is too dry during winter). I won’t buy their handcreams anymore (but their verveine perfume is the best perfume they have, I tried every perfume in their store and it’s the only one that smells good for my nose XD)

The only cream that worked quickly and let my hands hydrated for long hours:

• About hair loss, I’ll become bald before 50… For the supplement, I don’t really like to take pills everyday if it’s not necessary xd I’m a little suspicious about them since I heard crazy things about some supplements. I looked into the ingredients and about “Silicon” in French:
  https://www.tdg.ch/savoirs/additif-e551-sujet-caution/story/18256149
  https://www.60millions-mag.com/2015/03/19/nanoparticules-dans-les-aliments-la-loi-du-silence-7988

I’m okay with eating like sweets once in a while, but taking pills everyday.
I’ll look more into supplements for hair

Thaaank you very much for all these wonderful tips (and thank you for changing the topic’s title the last time )

Back to subtitling, I mishh it

[feyfayer]

Well since you asked for from all over the world ;):

I’m allergic to a lot of things, including chemicals, so I tend to stay away from store-bought products. Also, I have afro-hair, so my regimen might be very different from yours
Every week I:

• Shampoo: a mix of Indian herbs - amla, rheeta, shikakai, neem, et cetera. There is this handy blend from Khadi (hair wash powder) that you can probably find.

• Conditioner: An apple cider vinegar rinse.

• Deep conditioner: A personal blend of herbs (right now I’m using marshmallow root, horsetail, peppermint, maca, fenugreek and hibiscus) mixed with a bit of henna and a banana/oil or avocado mix.

• Rinse: black tea / green tea / rice water rinse (popular in Asia)

• And then I apply a leave-in spray (bamboo tea & lavender), a leave in conditioner (sheabutter/honey) and a scalp oil (a blend of almond oil, avocado oil + herbs - different than the deep conditioner, but similar).

• If my hair needs more defined curls, I also apply homemade aloe gel (my grandma also did this ^^) or chia gel.

I don’t take supplements, but I definitely do drink teas with lots of silica (bamboo / horsetail) and teas that can strengthen hair (f.e. marshmallow). What else? I try to leave my hair alone as much as possible. Since I have the most brittle hair type, I just put in braids or twists and don’t try to mess with it too much

[tisoal]

Ahhh oui je pense que la priorité serait donc de régler ton problème de shampoings trop fréquents d’abord ! Tu as regardé dans les shampoings spécial couleur ?
Si ils sont secs et qu’ils graissent vite, peut-être que tu as les racines grasses et les pointes sèches non ?
Si c’est le cas tu peux utiliser des après shampoings que tu n’utiliserais que sur les cheveux qui pendent. Genre après la douche tu tiens tes cheveux en queue de cheval et tu n’en mets que sur cette partie. Ceux à l’avocat ou au beurre de karité sont bien, Garnier ou Dop aussi.
Tu peux aussi utiliser des démêlants nourrissants. J’aime bien celui-ci :
Tu peux aussi essayer ça :
Ce qui est bien c’est qu’on n’a pas besoin de rincer cette huile, tes cheveux l’absorbent dans la journée. Par contre c’est que pour les pointes, et il faut en mettre très peu. Tu en mets un peu dans ta paume, tu frotte tes mains et tu les passe dans le bas de tes cheveux. C’est un peu cher je trouve mais ça dure très longtemps.

Aussi, j’aime bien ce shampoing :

Bref je n’ai pas d’autre conseil x)

Mdrrr c’est vrai que je ne connais personne qui a la même passion pour les éléphants ! J’en ai même une collection

Aucun soucis pour les shampoings, il m’a suffit d’aller dans ma salle de bain et de trouver les images

[irmar]

When you use this coconut oil:
Do you oil even the scalp? Do you rinse it or do you wash it the next morning?

When I oil, I particularly start from the scalp and do a simplified version of an Indian head massage. It’s a very good thing! Then I go to the length of the hair and help it spread with a brush.
Then, ideally you let it sit all night and then shampoo the next day. But I rarely do that because the pillowcase gets messed up or you have to carefully sleep on a towel. Instead, I try to do this on a day when I’ll be at home for many hours. For instance, put the oil in the morning and shampoo it in the afternoon. They say 4 hours is the minimum. When you shampoo and rinse, the oil will go away, but still the hair looks shiny.
In India, it’s amazing the hair traditional women have. Once I was in a bus and I was “ooh, aaah” about a very thick braid. It was enormously thick. Then the woman turned and I saw that this was one of two!
Nowadays Indian girls in the city don’t have such hair because they don’t want it to look oily, and because they use Western-style shampoos and styling things.
I don’t know why Parachute says frizzy hair. Maybe they have two different kinds? The one I get from India is in a bottle and it says nothing of the sort.
(My hair is straight like spaghetti, can’t keep a curl for more than a couple of hours. To make it a bit wavy I braid it at night. Well, I also braid it so that I or my cat don’t accidentally step on it)

[piranna]

@feyfayer I’m impressed by everything you do for haircare
For personal blend, do you have a recipee to share or maybe somewhere (website…) we can look?
But how long does it take from shampoo until gel?
Thank you for giving the tea tip! I didn’t know at all and I will surely try! (Is it special tea for hair or tea we can drink?)

@tisoal
Merci pour tous ces produits ! Arrivée devant le rayon, soit je vais rester 1h à choisir, soit je vais finir par tous les acheter en pensant à toutes tes recommandations
Shampoings cheveux colorés déjà testés, pas trop vu de différence malheureusement xd l’huile me tente bien

@irmar
If I do it on Saturday and Sunday every week, is it okay?
And when you let it sit, do you put something on your head or is it dripping?
On Amazon Fr, they sell 2 pots of 500g for about 19€. How long does a pot last (for you and for shoulder length hair)?
Thank you for all these details!!

[tisoal]

Ahhh l’huile sent super bon en plus je trouve !
Tu me diras si tu essaies quelque chose, je me demande si tes cheveux iront mieux

[feyfayer]

I think the personal blend depends on your hair type and such, but if you Youtube ‘Ayurvedic hair herbs’ you can find different combinations for growth / strength / general health. Then you can pick the herbs that are available to you / have the desired effect you want (I need moisture and strength). And if you Google it, you’ll find a whole list of them and exactly what they do. I have the different herbs written down in my journal and their properties, so I can mix it according to what my hair has been doing.

From shampoo to gel I sacrifice a few hours of my life, excluding the time it takes to prep all the blends. I usually start in the morning and used to finish at night, before I went to sleep, but now I use a hooded drier in between to speed up the process. Now it’s maybe 3 - 4 hours? Then every other day I spray the leave-in-spray and oil as well. I have full hair and even thought it’s not that long, I have a lot of it . I also have to spend time braiding my hair after.

All the teas I use for my hair are drinkable. Actually, I got some of them as teas just to drink, but then found out they had beneficial properties for the hair Bamboo and horsetail might be a bit difficult to find, but teas like peppermint and stinging nettle are also very good (in your hair and to drink ).

[irmar]

If I do it on Saturday and Sunday every week, is it okay?
And when you let it sit, do you put something on your head or is it dripping?
On Amazon Fr, they sell 2 pots of 500g for about 19€. How long does a pot last (for you and for shoulder length hair)?

Once a week is enough, I’d say.
It can’t drip, you have just massaged it in. And if you use coconut oil (it’s not the only option), it’s quite thick. As I said, if it’s the colder months it tends to become solid. The melting point of coconut oil is generally quoted as being 24 C. If the temperature is above that, the oil will be liquid. If the temperature is below that, it will become solid. That’s why I said to warm it between your palms before applying in the colder months.
However, if you want to use a towel (which then will be difficult to wash), it’s your choice. In India they do use some thin cotton towels. I usually don’t bother.
Here in Greece they also use laurel oil.
Directions:
Bay laurel leaf oil is also thought to be a good tonic for the hair, as it boosts hair growth and prevents excessive hair loss. Because it is also an astringent, it helps to tighten the grip of the hair follicles and the hair roots, thus preventing loss of hair. It helps to moisturize the scalp too, thus preventing dandruff and flaky scalp.
How to Use it: Dilute the oil with a carrier oil in a 1:1 ratio and massage it onto the scalp working your way up to the tips of your hair. Leave for a few hours or overnight, then shampoo and rinse.
Just don’t use olive oil, it’s too thick and you’ll smell like Greek salad.
For me one bottle lasts a long time because I alternate with two other oils I brought from India, but I didn’t mention because you might have difficulty finding them in France.
One is triphala oil.
Triphala means the mixture of three fruits. It is being used in Ayurvedic medicine since forever. It is formed by amalgamating three de-seeded fruits which have properties to cure several health problems including hair. The three fruits are Haritaki, Bibhitaki and Amalaki (amla).
I haven’t found the exact one I use online, but here is some info on the powdered form.
And here is a video and another one discussing it. Be careful, don’t buy this one as it contains mineral oil (liquid paraffine). This one seems to be more pure. This guy says that you can mix the powder with coconut oil to make a paste but I haven’t tried it personally.
The other one I don’t remember how it’s called and I’m too lazy to go and check, it was given to me by an ayurvedic pharmacist in Mysore.
I also don’t really do it religiously every week, although I should. Sometimes I forget or I’m lazy. So I cannot really tell you about how much a jar will last, sorry!
Oh, here is something I found, with avocados. Haven’t tried it, but looks interesting.

[simi11]

As irmar suggested using coconut oil is very old remedy, it is good for scalp and dry hair end. Massage it gently in scalp and then dry ends leave it several hours, I would not sleep in it, cause it would grease my pillow, you could wrap the head in plastic and then in towel because it gets warmer and therefore, I would imagine it’s working better, then wash with gentle shampoo.

I would not use olive oil because you won’t be able to wash it out well, I used castille soap as shampoo before and it left also an oily residue on my hair as well

As hair tonic /rinse you can use a apple cider vinegar with the mother (organic, unstrained) mixed with some water, you can also use old kombucha (which will turn into a less acidic vinegar). You could infuse the vinegar/kombucha vinegar with sage and rosemary, just put herbs in the jar for at least a month to extract the oils.
Vinegar rinse detangles hair and is pH balanced.

Here an excerpt from mountainroseherbs:
https://blog.mountainroseherbs.com/herbal-hair-care
Hair Rinses

Hair rinses are simple to make, and they naturally condition the hair and scalp. They soften, add shine, body, and enhance natural highlights. To create an herbal hair rinse, simply pour 2 cups of boiling water over 3 or more TBSP of dried organic herbs (see list below) and allow to infuse for 8 hours or overnight. Strain herbs from the liquid, you can gently warm the liquid if you’d like. To use, slowly pour the rinse over your head, making sure to massage the infusion into your hair and scalp. Keep a large bowl under your head to catch the liquid and reapply. Repeat several times, and either rinse out or allow to dry.

Herbal Vinegar Rinse

Vinegar rinses have the same advantages as water-based hair rinses, and they also help restore hair’s pH balance. Vinegar is beneficial for oily hair, itchy scalp, dandruff, dull hair, and other scalp conditions. To make, place 3 or more TBSP dried organic herbs (see list below) and 8 oz organic Apple Cider Vinegar in a glass jar, cap tightly, and infuse for 3-6 weeks. Shake the jar daily. Once infused, strain the herbs out. To use, apply 1-2 TBSP herbal infused vinegar to damp hair and scalp and thoroughly massage in, then rinse out with water. Or, you can use the method described above by combining 1 TBSP herbal vinegar with 1 cup water, followed by a thorough rinse with plain water. The infused vinegar will keep for at least a year if stored properly in a cool and dry area.

I have used Shampoos from Nature’s Gate (they have now different ingredients) but still without the harsh chemicals and
by Aveda the Rosemary/Mint https://www.aveda.com/product/5311/16530/hair-care/shampoo/rosemary-mint-shampoo

I personally also think it depends a lot on the water quality you are washing/rinsing the hair with!!

Hair masks:
I have made a mask with eggs and lemon and honey and few drops coconut oil.
You can like Irmar said do an avocado mask and there is also one with banana
or with both and/or egg, google online and you’ll find all kinds of stuff!

http://www.wideopeneats.com/11-diy-hair-mask/

[kylamia]

Essaye les truc genre huile de ricin ou huile de serpent (qui est un mélange de plusieurs plantes) en masque.
Tu verras tes cheveux t’aimeront toute ta vie XD

[piranna]

Thinking of you while smelling coconut oil because I put a lot on my head XD I’ll keep it for 12 hours

Thanks again for all your tips, everyone!
I’ll try next ones during this summer

[irmar]

Thinking of you while smelling coconut oil because I put a lot on my head

Yesterday I made a Chinese-style vegetable stir fry with Greek bulghur because I didn’t have rice, and I cooked it with coconut oil and some Indian spices (cumin, coriander, ginger and turmeric). A total mix of cultures but it was delicious. And yes, the smell…!

[angelight313_941]

For people like me with allergic reaction to chemicals, I like to use vegetable products for my hair like my grandmother taught me to do…
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Avocado: I buy almost rotted soft avocado (2 or 3 small ones). 3 for a $1 around where I live.

I mash them up, and put it all over my hair, and wrap a plastic bags or saran wrap all over my head making sure everything is covered with the avocado . I use my blow drier and apply heat from time to time. I leave it on as much as I can tolerate and remove it with a shampoo and conditioner I buy in the beauty product stores, where they always have great and natural ingredients products.

If anyone here is suffering from hair loss (not due to illness but chemicals like perms or dyes), if you can find aceite de Moska (Moska oil amazon.com sells them), and natural coconut oil. Mix 2 ounce of moska oil and 4 ounces of coconut oil and apply on your problem spot, or all over the root of your hair and leave in for at least 2 hours(more if you can). You will see hair growing within 2 weeks of using this daily. I lost my hair with a perm left too long and had bald spots as big as a quater (25 cents) all over my head, and it grew back within 2 weeks of using this (recommended G*d bless by my grandma *(RIP).

I even use it now from time to time to make my hair stronger in the roots. (be careful with your eyes bc it irritates the eyes badly if by chance it drips to your eyes).

I have very thin hair and the moska oil makes it fuller. But if your hair is coarse or wavy it does tend to dry the hair a lot, so you can only do this once a week to prevent very dry hair.

Now, it works for me but I can’t guarantee it will work for you. It won’t hurt to try either if you can find the products.

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[piranna]

The coconut oil product is working wonders after only 1 use.
Shiny hair and 3 days I didn’t wash them

Going to do another coconut mask this evening