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#1

just would love to know more of the different couintries

I hope you do share

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#2

Well, MY history anyway… :sunglasses:

Fort Hall Reservation. Idaho - Shoshone - Bannock Tribes.
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Tipi Creeping during the annual Festival :smile: Our aunt’s camp.
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And Auntie and Uncle just cuz they are cute in this picture. :smile:
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Mom, Hubby and sister-in-law - Dressed up for Shoshone reunion near Elko.

Oh! Winter round dance at Timbee hall.


Every year they have a Shoshone gathering up near Salmon, Idaho. My husband is Lemhi Shoshone on his dad’s side. Agkai Dika band (Salmon eaters) Same band as Sakajawea. His mom’s side is Boise Bannock. This is my nephew and my sister-in-law. Nephew is something like 6’4" thereabouts.

We were up salmon fishing by Yellow Pine, Idaho and saw this bear eating a dead deer. (STINKY!) We were about 60 feet away. It was too far for me to see what the bear was eating but hubby had his telephoto lens to look through.

Up in fish camp, eating. Hubby scolding me. "I told you don’t take pictures of me while I’m eating! :rofl: (I’m so bad, I take it anyway.)
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Hubby says. No Pictures! :rofl: ( Yea, I never learn! Took it anyway. I seem to have a whole collection of no-selfie people. :smile:)
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Ok… A better picture… His t-shirt is a political statement. Says Fort Hall Jail 83203 (Zip Code) the back has a ball and chain. This references everyone forced off their traditional lands and stuffed onto the reservation.
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Me hiding behind hubby. (It took me FOREVER to find this dumb picture! As a result of looking, you get all these other pictures!) :grin: Since I am allergic to pictures of me, this is about as good as you’re gonna get. I am a member of the No-Selfie generation.:sunglasses:
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Usually, they keep IT staff in the dungeon - they figure we have enough Windows (I know, that was terrible. So shoot me :smile: ) but that year, they had to do some remodeling so they stuck us up on the top floor and of course, I grabbed the window seat. ‘SENORITY’ has it’s benefits! for a few months I got a WINDOW VIEW of the ISU quad! My plants loved it! So did I! But of course, before we got too homesick for life outside - away from computers, they captured us and stuck us back in the dungeon. :sob: Bye real window view! Hello Windows background images!


Here’s the real picture of me.
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This one is a fake. :rofl: It’s my one and ONLY selfie! The lighting in that room makes me look like I was in a Terreyton cigarette commercial! 'I’d rather fight than switch!" Two black eyes! lol. I don’t normally have dark shadows under my eyes. :joy:
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We used to live in 15’ x 30’ log cabin when we first got married but after a year or so got a house out in the middle of nowhere. (Ross Fork District - Fort Hall) This was before we planted trees and painted it bomb target blue. The drifts can get as high as the house in bad snow years.
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We were 3 months without electricity and 7 months without water. That’s how long it took to get those set up. Hauling water was fine during summer but winter was approaching. Got water just before Thanksgiving (Nov. 24th) Of course, next spring his sister’s house burnt down and everyone moved to our place for several months. Goods thing I am used to big families. Just like a kdrama! Wall to wall people. Like a giant slumber party. :laughing: That was interesting, trying to get out in the early morning to go to work - in the dark - without stepping on anyone on the way out. :laughing: Over the years we always had someone or more staying over at our place.

Nephew getting the sights set for hunting season.

Downtown San Gregorio, Ca - Where my grandpa grew up.

My grandpa also built the Bay Bridge. IRONWORKERS - Grandpa was a catcher on a rivet crew. 4 guys per crew. The cooker tossed the hot rivet up to the catcher who then held the hot rivet for the tong man to grab who placed it where the rivet goes and the riveter drove it home with the rivet gun. They worked fast.
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Makes me think of my Grandpa sitting on a beam like these guys.
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Mi hermanas! I miss my rowdy sisters. :sob: (2 are missing from this photo) We are scattered all over the country now. Thousands of miles apart! It would be so FUN to watch Viki shows with them! The only problem with setting up a watch party with them is 3 of them couldn’t operate a computer if their lives depended on it. :roll_eyes: :smirk: :grin:

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My son when he was ~~~ about 10?


and Grandson - back in 2011 or so. (My son hasn’t set me updated pictures of grandson! Imma ring his neck if I have to go to California to do it! After this damned flu is done with though!)

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My friends kids - Excellent blackmail pictures! :rofl:
Mud girls - Then: :laughing:
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and Now:

Sister-in-law and grandson. Just so cute!


#3

What a cutie pie!
Are these traditional clothes made by hand?
I like tipis, want to sleep in it one day! Have you ever tried?


#4

Yes, everything is made by hand - clothing, headwear - moccasins and all the beadwork too. Fort Hall reservation beadworkers are famous for the best bead work.

If you look inside the family tipis in that tipi creeping photo - they have bunkbeds, rugs, battery lamps, etc. inside for the grandkids! :laughing: But no central firepits. Definitely NOT traditional! The parents go home to sleep and shower. :grin: The tipis at the Festival are set up mainly as changing rooms for dancers and places for the kids to sleep for fun and for tourists to gawk at. But tourists can’t go inside them because they are family houses, not museums.

There are places all around Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, etc. that have tipis set up for the tourists. Of course, you will rarely find one set up in a traditional way with the inner liners and furnishings and stuff. Mostly they are just shells - the poles and outer fabric. But they are fun for tourists.

Oh! If you want to see a tipi set up in a traditional way, go to one of those Mountain men gatherings. they often will have a tipi set up with traditional style furnishings and liners, etc.

In a traditional camp, families have their regular camp positions but tipis are clustered in groups of near relatives. When we go up for salmon fishing, people mostly use modern tents but some families bring up their tipis. It’s a lot of fun when the extended family sets up together. I used to love going fishing with hubby. :smile: Mmm smoked salmon! YUM! I am right there. He catches the fish,. I clean it and put it on ice. Oh! Fresh out of the water salmon, wrapped in foil with some lemons and placed on a firepit grill! Oh MAN! That is SO GOOD! Making myself HUNGRY! :smile:

Actually, no. I have not slept in a tipi. Other than the Festival - set up mainly for tourists to gawk at and for the kids to sleep in - Tipis on the reservation are usually now only used for two purposes - for ceremonial use - Native American Church services and for funerals. My husbands’ family is Native American Church but he follows the pipe and does not attend meetings. We will help out family sponsored Native American Church meetings by cooking, chopping wood, setting up, and helping out however needed but we don’t attend the service itself.

And funerals are often the only time someone ever spends in a tipi. When someone passes, as soon as they are released from the mortuary, the family brings them home or to the district lodge and puts them up in one of the tribal tipis used for funerals. Their head is always to the west and the tipi door is to the east. They are huge! Big enough for the coffin and 3 rows of chairs for visitors. and if it’s cold, they bring in big propane heaters. But they aren’t tipis to live in - no liners - so they are cold anyway even with the heaters. My husband passed in May '19 and it was so darned COLD inside, even right next to that propane heater. Someone always stays all day with the person who is gone. During my hubby’s funeral it was mainly me and uncle who stayed with him during the day. Visitors came to pay their respects all day long but went inside the lodge to eat. And at night, prayers are said and the tipi is closed up for the night, but a few people always stay the whole night keeping company. We never leave the passed one alone. In the lodge or in big army tents set up near the house, there is food to eat. All visitors are expected to eat something - it’s like the last meal with your relative /friend. Then the 4th day, all the next of kin crowd into the tipi for prayers, then they bring the casket out, take down the tipi and bring them to the cemetery.

Other customs for funerals are: all pictures of the passed person are put away for a year. Hair is cut. personal stuff like clothing and bedding is burned, their other stuff is given away. Tobacco and new dollars are given to male visitors and cloth is given to female visitors, and also other misc. is stuff given to anyone. And some stuff is set up on tables so anyone can take what they want.

Why tobacco and dollars? Tobacco is used for prayers - smoke represents holy spirit - when you smoke you are taking in holy spirit which is why you can’t lie while holding the pipe. Dollars represent wealth.

Cloth represents wealth for women because with cloth you can survive - clothing and shelter.

Hair - it is your connection to spirit. Traditionally hair was never cut except for mourning. When you cut the hair, you are cutting your connection to spirit for the mourning time of one year. The last time my hair was cut was when I was 16. My hair was down to mid-calves. I cut my braid off just below my shoulders. Let me tell you. Cutting your hair is a shock when it’s never been cut in decades. Feels like an amputation.

The ones who are in mourning can’t do anything other than required stuff like going to work. No dances, no parties, no going out anywhere other than shopping for food. no galivanting around visiting people. You can go to work then directly home. You can’t do any hobbies or craftwork like beadwork or making traditional items, etc. You aren’t supposed to call to your loved ones because they need to go on their journey not hang around here. Basically, everything is shut down for a year. After a year a memorial is held with a big feast, everyone is invited. Pictures of the passed one are brought out again.


#5

and if I am not mistaken I think my fvamily visited fort hall when we were children. awesome pictures thanks for an uplift!!