The Community is made up by mostly lovely people such as yourself. Sure, some controversial characters do exist, like me. 
Iām pretty controversial, but Iāve always gotten along with everyone because you are all so nice. I also feel the need to be just as nice. I adore you all even when Iām upset about a certain topic. Iām sorry for being selfish and unaware that you were getting hurt. I think this whole mess started with the DramaFever influx.
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You donāt seem that bad. 
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You donāt need to apologize.
You had nothing to do with Viki new policy.
Weāre just talking.
It was just to explain why Viki didnāt decide it suddenly all alone without a basis or without a background being previous actions and will from other users. It was more or less what some other users wanted.
Itās not selfish to want to talk about global matters. Or else, it would be also selfish to only want to talk about what is pink.
The forum is a rainbow.
I find that only talking about dramas or Viki on Viki is boring after a while.
Diversity in topics is fine but the limit is toning it down.
As for the community, I have a different opinion which has been positively reinforced because of Viki new policy.
As for being hurt on Viki, itās more jaded for the qualification. Thereās the reality every day, but when I come on Viki, it feels like entering another world and a strange one, where social rules are not the same and virtual people are not like real people.
Iām controversial too, but I donāt get along with everyone because I donāt think everyone has a nice behaviour in all types of situations and when I disagree and tell it, eventually there comes trouble. I donāt pick to see the good side or only the bad side.
This is a trivial matter, thereās absolutely nothing to apologize for, you donāt need to apologize.
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Iām curious about what discussion post they deleted from you @adrian bc they deleted some of (mine), and I deleted a lot of stuff. I donāt think they delete the other personās comment or maybe thatās a new thing here But @frustratedwriter said they deleted some of her comments, too.
I see your fundraiser for covid 19 still posted here although the guideline rules states we canāt talk about covid19 subject, and I DID mention it to a moderator; why they deleted all my covid post but yours was still posted (not that I was against your post but making a point why the pick on me so much). It makes no sense bc that helped us relieved the tragic moments we were worldwide going through; which in my opinion could fall into General Discussion. If we only talk about dramas, is that fair to us volunteers that give our time and skill for the benefit of viewers and this site?
I hope you donāt leave for good but take a break like I did, and then I decided not to close my account; which in the end, it helped me relieve the pressure of the lockdown that was so hard in a city that never sleeps. Imagine how hard it would have been not to have an outlet to release the terrible emotions EVERYONE/Including I, was going through?
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I guess certain topics (covid-19, politics, religion, etc.) have been āprohibitedā mainly because they are prone to letting discussions escalate.
But you are right, this measure is also ārobbingā us of a way to vent. And I think a better solution would have been to make separate categories for those topics and have a rule that āreligion is only mentioned in the [Religion Category], corona only in the [COVID-19 Category]ā etc. That way people who want to talk about it, will be able to and others can just avoid it.
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If venting means just throwing emotional problems out like virtual trash onto others it is not the right way. People who have problems to deal with their emotions and mental health status would get more help when they contact a mental health hotline/center/organisation because the people who work there are educated to help others during crisis no matter if it is a crisis like corona lockdown or something else (so they also know how to stabilize people and prevent a more negative spiral).
A clear category system as you mentioned might have helped too, but overall these times are very heated and most people are stressed now for one reason or another so the admins need to moderate either way and if they donāt want or canāt spend more resources for moderating, more categories wouldnāt solve the core issue.
I think there are still other places for āall topicsā discussions at different locations, e.g. reddit might be like that, when it is only or mainly about posting anything online for āventingā.
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They are probably overloaded too in these times ā¦ and maybe not the right choice for everyone. 
There sure are. And they have the fights Viki seems to want to avoid as well. So I guess our choice is between a peaceful board where we canāt mention everything we want or a board where we can say what we like but where we might end up in a cat fight.
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In the news it was said that they got around 30% more people who seeked for help during lockdown but here are many different help centers/organisations (e.g. some are for kids and teens, some mainly for adults) so I hope everyone who needed help was able to get some.
Some communities also created/encouraged their users to do some kind of online help for each other with encouraging chats/talks (some language communities did that and couple of hobby/interest, neighbourhood community pages too. It was usually with guide/lines from the admins and sometimes also threads/tags, so it was organized in a way with the aim to give support - emotional or if it was about local surroundings also with real life help. For old people without internet/family it might have been more difficult to get informations where and how to get help).
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No, from what I understand, it involved personal attacks of the worst kind, like racial stereotyping. So VIKI was apparently forced to delete entire threads and make up new rules. I canāt confirm such terrible things, though.
My policy is that everyone here is super nice. I mean sure, some people are annoying ā Hello, World! ā but in general, I think we all have a minimum of respect and care for each other.
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Yes I do agree with Viki deleting posts that really have nothing to do with certain issues.
Such as insults to another members, political issues, or religion. My personal feeling is if you want to talk about politics and religion there are forums on the internet for that.
And if you are using insults to attack a person then be a troll somewhere else please not here at Viki
Itās easy for people to hide behind a computer or mobile phone to vomit out insults. We should use this forum here at Viki for positive things or to encourage someone if they are feeling down.
To share dramas or what new coming up or questions about a drama we may not understand. It donāt take much energy to be kind and respect others, but it take so much energy to be negative. Just my personal views.
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We would agree that discrimination or harassment are not respect or showing care. That is why these types of comments were deleted on Viki.
Nothing would escalate without peopleās intervention, we āare the forum.ā
It is possible to confirm facts with Viki or by PM with people involved in it.
It is impossible to deny or put it in another angle. The past is the past, canāt change it.
Individual freedom stops where the freedom of someone else begins.
I have encountered more disrespectful people (in number of people and in term of degree) on Viki than in my real little life, and I know what discrimination is irl. It tells a lot already.
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I am so sorry that you had to deal with such negativity. Please forgive me. I feel responsible for the safety of my friends. If I havenāt left VIKI yet, itās all thanks to you, all of you. Thatās the only reason I keep coming back.
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Donāt be sorry, what for, who for and whatās the use?
It wonāt change anything. The past is the past. But if we can change the future or avoid these mistakes again, I will be more interested to hear that.
People are just people. Wherever we sit or whatever we feel entitled to, we just sit on our ass (Montaigne, a philosopher).
I forget and brush things really quick or move forward really fast. Life still goes on!
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I think a better solution would have been to make separate categories for those topics
Itās funny you mention that bc lately we are going off certain topic so when I realized what I did (going off topic), I now delete my comment. I know itās kind of annoying for certain people; but they very strict with that in here.
One thing I did learned here at this site, that in this life you have to be careful who you talk/write/communicate with. The most difficult ppl to communicate with here are; āāthe ones that think they know it allāā
Soā¦ Iām following these simple rules from now on;
āāWhy argue with someone who think theyāre never wrong?āā
This frustrating situation can be avoided with these 8 tips on how to win an argument with someone who āāTHINKSāā is never wrong, and worse yet is a āāknow it all.āā
- Stay Calm and Strong. (Your reaction)
- Support Claims with Evidence (Done that very wisely)
- State Facts Vs Opinions (no longer will bother here with that; you never win with a know it all)
- Choose Your Battles Wisely (recognize when a person sees mental problem, thereās something really wrong with that person, too).
- Stay Away from Sarcastic people.
- Consider Alternatives to keep the individual away from you (Reporting them here is the best option with evidence of course/ done that)
- Ignore them completely
- Let It Go.
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the last one may.
The other ones you deleted were still in link to the topic about:
- regulation on social medias by social medias
- practices of different social medias, comparing their practices with Vikiās forum and own personal bad exp on social medias (danger of social media).
The last one is more about realizing that itās not only topics (what?) that may arise problems within the community, but peopleās behavior when communicating or how they communicate (who and how?)
And I think itās also one of the things that plays a key role in a conversation, not only the topic in itself.
The people have already made that choice. Unable to be nice and courteous to one another, flag after flag was sent out to VIKI, who in turn deleted entire posts and threads, making new rules and destroying any semblance of Free Speech. Then again, this virtual space was created by a Corporation, and Corporations donāt care about Free Speech. Go figure.
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Sadly, that happened the moment disgusting insults started flying left and right, prompting VIKI to delete entire threads and destroy Free Speech in the process. We should never let those in charge know that we are squabbling with our fellow members. We self-regulate, showing that we are indeed nice, educated human beings who donāt put others down because of the colour of their skin and other such atrocious things.
But it happened nonetheless. And now the higher-ups will always have a reason to apply censorship and silence usā¦ You know, for our own good.
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Yeah, anywhere there should be regulation (social media, forumsā¦).
Self-regulation and when it doesnāt work, an external regulation in addition to that.
How the external regulation comes is another matter.
I understand what you mean, I would tweak it and add more precision: itās not about appearance (show), it is about changing our thinking.
Because it is still not fine to keep the same thinking and changing from harassing or discriminating or insulting publicly to privately when those in charge donāt look around or are not in the same room or outside.
We should never squabble with our fellow members, but the goal in itself is not to show we are nice or to avoid censorship or to avoid the police station or penalties. Sure it might lead to this.
If people are correct with others from the beginning (what or how they say or how they act), there wouldnāt be squabbles and no censorship or if there are squabbles, eventually people or one part tries to find a compromise.
There is no smoke without a fire.
Itās about mind change, like population mindset change or evolution. Itās quite a current topic!
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You know whatās so unfair of all this going on here at viki? When I tried to flag a comment from a person I felt was offending me; in any way, shape or form, I couldnāt flag that person!
I couldnāt report anyone but they were able to flag away what I wrote. Some ppl here state: āāI didnāt flag your post.āā They may have not have flagged my post in the name they used to write to me at the time. but the other names (who knows how many other names they may have), they did! I have my post flagged by ppl I have never seen a post around here. That says a lot. YES, I know who and how many people flagged my post, even ppl who gave me āālike your post hearts.āā
The good thing was, the ppl/person who wrote the offending stuff, I thankfully was able to copy their offending post (they never deleted those), and I submitted it as evidence of what this person was doing, (not deleting their post worked on my favor and I bet is still up there too bc of course I canāt even flag it even if I want to do that. When I hit the submit button, it doesnāt work either. Shocking, right?
I wonder if the CEO is aware of these new rules guidelines and the many restrictions impose here? Yes, the CEO may be busy; but part of his job should be to make sure that the staff is working in a fair manner and doing whatās right with no preference of what stays up bc it wasnāt flagged and what gets deleted bc it was flagged. I already feel itās unfair how ppl can flag a post and things get deleted without no RESPECTFUL explanation.
THE new RULE here should be the person that flagged any post, their name should be disclosed too, and the explanation as to why they flagged the post, should be available to each and every person their post was āāflagged.āā But of course, why expect that to happen here, when you get attacked and have no right to defend yourself? I call that DISCRIMINATION.
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Adrian, how would you help users and Angel if you were a forum mod?
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