By that time, it’s usually subtitled on youtube and Viki won’t make as much money as they should.
I think that, since Viki took the fan channels away, CMs should be provided with new promotional tools.
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when is Viki showing the legend of chusen season 2. I cannot wait to see what happens next.
Please fill out request form: http://vikiinc.wufoo.com/forms/title-request-form/ and wait for Viki license it.
Even I didn’t know that Cecilia Liu has an upcoming tv series!! SO looking forward to it! I love the male lead, too.
Also, has anyone mentioned the upcoming show starring Krystal Jung and Lay(Zhang YiXing)??
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Given what I have seen, I now believe it will require “heaven’s rain” to bring the Advisors Alliance here.
How can a channel manager who dearly wants a good drama do anything if they cannot publish the page for folks to go there and also for anyone who might sign up for a team.
The system needs vast improvement along with better communication to tell us what, if anything, they will about what they plan to license. This cannot be a complete “mystery” item, it has to be somewhere in the hands of the V-R consortium overlords.
Shifu’s Pet
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There is an undercurrent here that everyone seems to be ignoring…
The Chinese production companies all operate its own channels on a certain tube-like site with popular series getting multi-million views per episode, this coincided with release of crowdsource subtitle and translation tool for that tube-like site. This was not the case even a year ago. It seems to they would just want to do things themselves now rather than licence things out to third parties (at very least, it strengthen their negotiation position, which can make licences too expensive for viki to acquire)
While I still like viki better to introduce dramas to my non-chinese speaking friends, since the subs are of a better quality and consistency, but that’s a shark in a tank of small fishes and could have game changing ramifications. Especially since viki is a K-drama focused site to begin with.
realistically, I would think drama with more idol appeal and less expensive to acquire will be the ones shown on viki. This unfortunately rules out both Tribes and Empires as well as Advisors Alliance.
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This doesn’t explain why DF could get “Love O2O”, “Princess Weiyoung”, “General and I” recently. DF has pages for Three Lives Three Worlds" and “Tribes and Empires” too. I would not be surprised if “The Advisors Alliance” ends up at DF. Seems to me DF is spending their budget on all the anticipated Chinese dramas and Viki continues to Ignore Chinese dramas in favor of Korean dramas.
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It makes sense for Viki to buy cheap and popular dramas, although that would drive away lots of viewers who are looking for originality, variety and as a good quality as possible. I’ve watched lots of good idol dramas, but they generally are repetitive, cheap and uninspired, with overrated idols and poor quality.
If I’m going to watch that kind of repetitive and usually cheap stuff, why don’t I dust and switch on my TV set.
Viki should consider that, too.
they won’t let me public my fan channel to try to drive support for advisors. Like I said, it’s going to take Heaven’s rain to get this probably.
I have help if we get it, you wouldn’t believe the number of people who have said IF we get it, they will come. I’m sure that applies to other things like Tribes - at least they have a page to work with publicly.
But do our license forms mean anything. Seriously.
From the looks of what’s getting licensed of late…?
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Question:
then how on earth did we get Ice Fantasy? That one could not have been cheap.
And there is the fact viki also markets subs to other sites for their use as well - e.g. hulu, df.
Thus there must be some sort of collaboration happening with those sites to bear up the license fees as well?
Tribes and Advisors arguably will be the shows that do for Chinese historical/wuxia what NIF really got rolling and some say NIF was a fluke here…but what a happy fluke it was.
For a site that claims to be global TV, perhaps it’s time to truly embrace the two largest language groups in the world…Mandarin Chinese and English.
The other drama it will be interesting to see if we see it here will be the Empress of China Hollywood remake…
People comment about subs appearing in other places. If there were not a true and continuing world-wide demand, it would not be happening.
Anyway - it will still take Heaven’s rain imho.
Crouching Dieter, Hidden Donut
old nickname in place, until humor is out of splints and bandages
let’s just say it caught a “BUG”
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Ive seen in past on hulu some dramas with the Viki logo and df logo as well, I knew about df but Viki on hulu???
Yes, and a lot more of it before Hulu essentially destroyed their Asian drama catalog.
There are about 28 K dramas - and ONE C drama left.
And you can forget things other than anime - 500 anime there. sigh.
Let’s just say things like Prince of Lan Ling and other niceties were all summarily thrown out.
Oh and it was around the point when Six Flying Dragons concluded. At the time, I was not a viki pass bearing QC of gold - but a mere mortal with a HULU membership…and I went to rewatch an ep and it was GONE. YEAH. no warning.
There were over 100 K dramas at the time. GONE. overnight. Hulu…must take lessons from somewhere. And also you can’t find ANYTHING HISTORICAL or costume in K drama Or C drama Except EMPRESSES OF THE PALACE. wow, what a coincidence…but every modern one on earth.
SO…where do the fans go who wants historical, costume, wuxia, and other things besides a modern k pop drama? or something with singers instead of actors?
Yeah. Right here, as long as the vikioverlords see the potential of gaining not just a bigger female audience but men who would watch them too. Some dramas have universal appeal - like Warrior Baek Dong Soo. My husband covertly watches that when I re-view it. :).
Oddly - Empress Ki had him too. (GRIN).
NIF…intrigues him but I catch him watching it sneakily…he’s afraid he’ll get the whole plot explanation. HEH.
Anyway, I digress.
I really need, crave, Advisors and Tribes. those most of all.
Not anything that’s been described already as “Mighty Morphin Power Rangers”. Don’t ask. 
Some of you may already have heard about this train wreck …and I’ll leave it at that.
Crouching Dieter, Hidden Donut
Okay, to whom at which vikioverlord address do I ship the KKD? 
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I know 
They keep getting these bad cdramas. But I do think right now there is a bad season for cdramas, but they could have gotten a good cdrama from 2016 like Banshu Legend.
I keep asking myself the same question lately…
My following comment will be a little OT here, but I’ll still make it. It’s true Cdramas are not getting the right recognition they deserve (I’ve also started watching them only recently) since lots of users on Viki prefer Kdramas over Cdramas, plus the number of episodes scares people away (even though most of the Cdramas I’ve seen are made by 45min long episodes compared to the 1 hour - 1 hour and 15 min long episodes of some popular Kdramas). However, I truly wonder how the business team makes their choices… Lately, it seems like it’s not what the community wants, but what is more convenient on an economical point of view and I’m getting more and more disappointed…
(Totally off-topic: let’s not even mention Jdramas on Viki…)
Sorry for the “off-topic-ness” of this post, but now it seems like it’s even becoming pointless to submit channels…
By the way, is there even a fan channel of Love O2O on Viki?
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Well, a) K-dramas get subtitled way faster, b) they get licenced (and remain licenced until you can finish watching) and c) K-dramas are more varied in their plots and building of characters.
C-dramas usually have static plots and they are too heavily edited.
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Sure, but I mean, in my experience in the Italian community, most want to watch Kdramas in any case and never even consider other nationalities dramas. That’s what I meant, then obviously I agree with all the points you’ve made.
Whoa…
I shall differ with you on some major points then.
Nirvana in Fire, Chinese, 2015, is the worlds best drama. It simply IS. it is not “static” it is NOT too “heavily edited”.
I can name some more dramas that are also good and Chinese.
I believe we have more K Drama subbers at present - as word gets around that we are indeed buying and subbing Chinese dramas, we are getting more Chinese subbers.
And there are some VERY good dramas coming this year out of China. Lost Love in Times, with a great actress. Tribes and Empires - a great looking wuxia, The Advisors Alliance - a great historical. The Legend of Ru Yi - with Huo Wallace AND a great actress.
Chinese Drama is just hitting its stride!
To each, their own, but I now watch more Chinese drama than Korean drama for a good reason. I am an Asian Drama fan - we do not get the best Japanese dramas here either…and we have missed some good ones out of China too recently.
I hope we get the best ones, the ones that might rival NIF.
Have you seen NIF, by the way? Scarlet Heart? or even well, Legend of the Condor Heroes? Anything with Hu Ge, Yuan Hong, Huo Wallace, Liu Shi Shi, or any of the other really amazing actors they now have in Chinese drama?
Anyway - there is a lot of great drama out there, just waiting for us to pick it up and let the world see it as well, with our willing hearts and hands.
GeNie of the Lamp POOF!
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there are so many good ones coming out this year. See my list.
also put in license requests, watch some trailers!
CD, HD
I haven’t seen that one, but lo and behold, THE ADVISORS ALLIANCE Just went live! It stars Liu Tao and a great cast - and the trailer is AMAZING. I also have Rule the World and Lost Love in Times - Liu Shi’s Shi’s drama - the pages are now out!
PLEASE fill in the license forms, and please support our efforts to bring absolutely AMAZING dramas here. 2017 may be the best year ever coming out of China!
https://www.viki.com/tv/33574c-the-advisors-alliance?q=adviso
That’s the Advisors Alliance…look around the 'net…you will see THIS is HIGHLY anticipated.
Watch the trailer. It’s there in the comment block… and please help us get this drama, and all of the great ones. This is the one I have most wanted of them all! and now we MIGHT get it.
I also have Rule the World - another good possible one - and Lost Love in times. I am hiring volunteers, and working to complete the dramas I now have too - in order to give them my dearest love and attention, along with all our Fans…Who are also our Volunteers!
Spread the word, let’s get the LICENSES!
Linda/deadliftdiva_548, the commenter known as…Crouching Dieter, Hidden Donut
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Advisors Alliance JUST WENT LIVE FAN CHANNEL!
We have HOPE now…of getting this, Lost Love in Times, and Rule the World - ALL of them just showed up.
Others were NOT given live status - so we need to fill in forms and do our best.
Here’s the LINK for AA -
https://www.viki.com/tv/33574c-the-advisors-alliance?q=adviso
My dearest wish is to work …constantly…on the very best dramas we can get.
Crouching Dieter, Hidden Donut
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