I reached my quota in hearts giving for today (didn’t know it existed on the forum xd) but I would have liked to give some here ; )
@irmar, I think we have different visions about informations that can be shared and it’s totally normal since we’re all different and don’t think the same way : ) It happens a lot when interacting with others irl or not so please, don’t feel offended by what I’m trying to explain. For my defense, I’m not an English fluent speaker so I’m not used to write or read in English using more appropriate expressions or a softer tone. If I offend you or some others by what I did 2 weeks ago, then I apologize in advance for that. Since I really didn’t intend to offend, force people to share, to burry bugs topics about channels or to appear as an attention seeker (if I was, I would have posted more these past few weeks or participated more on other posts or becoming CM or moderator, many ways to seek eyes of others which I’m not at all interested in)
I can try to explain why these topics (mine, I can’t explain for others since I’m not the author so I’m in no position to explain for them) are not confidential for me (and just for me, if others, it’s private info that they don’t want to share, I don’t want to force anyone to answer, like, doesn’t like, etc. as I don’t feel forced to read, answer, etc. We have the same rights. We’re free and liberty of expression is something that I value on a forum.
I can totally understand that they don’t want to share some things because they think it’s private and I have never been seeking to know more than what they want to tell about themselves. I post and anyone who is interested can answer. I’m on this forum to share my opinion and not to coerce people or impose my way of thinking even though people share divergent opinions on some points. No big deal for me, I can still live : )
I’m explaining this because I don’t know what is believed or not and I prefer to tell bluntly what I have on my mind than beating around the bushes.
So why it’s not confidential for me ?
For me, personal infos that I shouldn’t share are administrative infos (name, surname, birth date, address, phone number, money related, work related, family related, political, religious topics, passwords, private photos, videos etc).
This is basics for everyone I suppose except some topics.
Other than that, talking about pets, food, games, books, movies is like talking about dramas for me (for me). It’s linked to hobbies or what I like and if others know that my favorite desserts are fruity desserts or that my favorite dramas are suspense ones, for me sharing this info is sharing about myself on the same level of privacy.
On other forums, we always find many categories, even in game forums and my topics can be find there in the same theme.
I can go in a pet forum, I will find people giving their mail or number to buy a pet or photos of them.
I can go on a cooking forum, I will find people sharing recipes or tips.
On blogs, people introduce themselves briefly.
On websites, we can find diaries or biographies where people are using an username for privacy.
On Tinder, people talk without meeting them first and what can happen afterwards ?
In a bar, cafe, train, waiting room, we can meet someone and have an interesting conversation. But what do we know about these people that we meet for the first time ?
Not that everyone is good on the internet but not everyone is bad neither and should I stop sharing in the name of my liberty of expression on a forum because I’m afraid that some people with ill intentions will know that I like food pets dramas. I’m a lamba person with a lamba anonym username sharing these lamba infos among millions of web surfers, vloggers, YouTubers who expose their life and face on the web. (plus some gain money with their YT videos and keep uploading so I think there are better or famous people to target when spying on them than a lamba contributor for a drama website)
On a forum, am I not allowed to talk about food, pets, etc ? Why can I find the same topic on other forums ? I read Viki forum terms of use (or faq I forgot how it is called) and saw some categories in my first days here and I never heard that it was forbidden to talk about these topics (we can check it).
We even have a beauty category here. It’s not linked to dramas.
Social category : what does this category mean ?
I mean for once can we talk about something different from dramas bugs issues and learn or share other things that we are willing to share ?
It’s like when I watch the news and they only tell about bad things in the world for their first part. Why can’t we talk about something different among an international community in a forum ?
So that’s why I thought it as okay to post it but if people feel it’s too personal, then they are not forced to answer : )
About why I suddenly posted a lot 2 weeks ago since I can read posts talking about it here and risked to appear like a dominatrix or an attention seeker or crazy when posting that way and still did it : I already answered to a PM about this matter so my reasons are the same than in what I answered in PM since I’m not making up things and I have evidences (if the PM’s author comes by) :
I only posted to burry 2 posts (guessing game and editing pains) in which I didn’t even participate since I was away from the forum and got to read later.
So for other bugs on channels or any bug, I didn’t want to burry them if this is important for other CMs and volunteers, I can understand and I told in PM to the person asking me without some irrespect that anyone including this person could update or answer the channel topic to make it to the first line on forum (I can take screens to prove that I said that and people who know me better because we worked together more than once or talked more than on a few forum posts where obviously we will meet divergent opinions, they know that I like to play fair and if I was not then I would become CM or mods and “play dirty”, not sharing or I wouldn’t give away my former moderations and still glue to them or I would not be so picky about who the CM or the mod is, choosing not to work on many dramas that might have interested me but without my friends and sharing value, there’s no interest for me).
So I choose and choose to answer politely to a PM suspecting me that I was a moderator of Viki forum, that I wanted to burry important issues on channels, that I was lying when I told that I was learning Chinese even though I was a novice and clearly d that better to talk in Chinese with a wall than I, that simply if I didn’t have better things to do or say , I should contribute more in Chinese > English if I was pretending to learn whereas I was not making up things since I have my studies notes, my YT playlist updated a long time ago, my book, an application to learn Chinese where I posted a comment a long time ago, I just came back from a trip and didn’t sleep much and still segmented to catch up and help other seggers (I can take screens) and then decided to take 48h of break because I was tired and wanted to see viki forum and surprise fell on 2 cold topics between serious people who normally get along or don’t fight. And thought that it was not worth arguing over this and thought why not trying to lighten the mood or make these specific contributors talk about something else to make them think about something else or talk on something that they might be interested in or talk together on a safe topic. But actually people got angry at me? I want to say but why accusing me of things without hearing me first or knowing me and my reasons? I don’t know many people on this forum because never talked on regular basis outside of this forum so we can’t know each other well. People can be real quick to judge others without knowing others, why, where. Can we know a person after talking in a few posts on a forum ? Not me. I don’t even know fully my family after all these years.
So yes, it was not my business but as a watcher, reading these 2 posts made me feel uneasy and I actually just feel that in 1 year, all of this would be forgotten so why waiting 1 year.
But I might have been too naive to believe that a Pm begining with irrespect could end with respect.
So if my PMs are “read maybe in a few years if that person has time” when they expect us to read their PMs (screenshots I can) :
- irrespect. Do we suspect people and “attacking” them without ever talking together on PM ? Barely knowing each other ? Do we tell people that we will read their PMs in a few years if we have time as an answer from a polite PM ?
- from a CM (wonder how others contributors are talked to if they are not CM or mod or sensei : being nice only to cm or mod or sensei to gain channels or favors ?
- surprise : imposed comoderation not once but many times on channels. What does that mean ? That this mod is 2nd rank and can’t do it alone ? Using them for the channel without trying to take into account their opinion about comod ?
And if Viki imposed a coCm with who you almost never worked with ? Can we try be in other shoes ?
So if people have the right to tell that some CMs are cheating and that they replace with another dictature : I also have the right to complain
I don’t gain anything from this since I will never work with this CM. Sharing huh ? Imposing comoderation is sharing ?
But yes I care for fairness.
We are victims of our modern advancement, we are puppets for the economy and the gov.
