I’m not going to say Bye because I plan to email you from time to time, if it’s alright with you. Also, who is Umbrella?!
We should ask ourselves if suicide rate only matters if it’s about celebs or one’s actual idol country or if we do also care when it’s about people who aren’t idols at all.
According to the World Health Organization, the suicide rate in South Korea is the 10th highest in the world. One factor in its high suicide rate is suicides among the elderly. Traditionally, children have been expected to care for their aging parents; however, because this system has largely disappeared in the twenty-first century, many elderly people commit suicide, so they do not feel like they are a financial burden on their families.
The government of South Korea is making efforts to curb the suicide epidemic. It is striving to increase access to mental healthcare, a necessity as 90% of suicide victims in South Korea may have a diagnosable and treatable mental health condition. It is also providing education to community leaders to help prevent suicides at a local level.
In Japan, suicide borders on a crisis level, though the government has been active in intervention to decrease the risk of suicide among vulnerable populations. It is the leading cause of death in men among the ages of 20-44 and for women among the ages of 15 to 34.
In Japanese culture, suicide, in some circumstances, has long been viewed as an honorable way to die. Consider the kamikaze pilots during World War II, whose greatest honor was to dive-bomb a plane into an Allied warship and die in the process. The practice of military suicide has been going on since at least the time of the Samurai warlords and is one factor in Japan’s high suicide rate.
In China, suicide is the fifth leading cause of death and accounts for over one-quarter of suicides worldwide. In contrast with many Western countries, in which men are more likely to commit suicide, most suicide victims in China are women. China’s economic boom has led to greater independence for women, who are now much more able to get divorced as a means of dealing with domestic violence. However, the strain of divorce means that they must work long hours while raising their children, often without the support of family that the culture has traditionally relied on in the past.
People in rural parts of China are as much as five times more likely to commit suicide than people in cities. This notion may be attributed to a lack of mental healthcare, the stigma associated with mental illnesses (such as schizophrenia), poverty, and poor education. However, exact statistics are hard to come by because few to no epidemiological studies on suicide have been carried out by the Chinese government.
Sweden has a very low suicide rate, but this rate can be misleading because it may not account for physician-assisted suicide, which is legal there. In 2012, Sweden only had 12 reported suicides per 100,000 people.
Historically, Sweden has had a high suicide rate, with the most suicides in the developed world during the 1960s. That may have been due, at least in part, to cultural attitudes regarding suicide and long, dark winters, particularly in the northern regions. The government responded to the crisis with social welfare and mental health services, and the numbers have dropped dramatically. Today, Scandinavian countries – Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland – have very high rates of happiness and relatively low suicide rates. However, the dark winters – 20 hours of darkness or more in each day in some areas – causes seasonal affective disorder (SAD), a form of depression, which has been known to correlate with higher rates of suicide.
There’s another topic ppl talked about suicide and depression in general, independantly of the status if you’d like to participate too (from the same author):
Suicide topic has come more than 1, we talked about normal people and celebrities.
There are also other dark topics on this forum.
I don’t think it means that ppl are indifferent when they don’t talk about suicide or misery.
Silence is sometimes the only answer we can give (the immigrate mom and her baby hugging and found at the bottom of the sea near Italy, muslims camps in a part of China, abuse where the mother forced her child to eat cockroaches in France, babies factories in Africa, father at 11 years old because raped by his babysitter multiple times in America, all the misery in the world, can we all talk about it?)
A life is a life.
Death doesn’t discriminate. We all finish the same way in the end.
@ adrianmorales I agree with your comments, this industry It’s all about MONEY. The only big CEO and owner is Park Jin-young also known as JYP he is the only one who have set out to change the way Idols are handle in his company. He was on YouTube and TV talking about how his company will be and is presently setting up Counselors for any mental or personally problems for the idols, along with Nutritionist for better health when eatting. Those are just a some of changes JYP mention, there are other good changes. Hopefully other CEOs will following suit and do better. Because being an idol is not all Roses and Wine. Sometime the price of Fame is not worth it.
Funny thing, I was just thinking about JYP and how well they’ve treated Twice’s Mina. I should write a post, a positive one. It’s not all doom and gloom, after all.
yes we have just talked about the idols and all, what about the kids (people) that arent idols, I do hate to admit it, I as a senior do look around and see a bunch of the senior folk taking that route, again cause no one cares, and their kids kinda sorta neglect them,
and top of the list is bullying. I hope that the boys that started something here (NC) helping someone that was bullied. hope y’all seen it. and whats amazing in itself? 2 black boys helping a white boy. awesome!! I really pray this does stop, a small act of kindness goes a long way.
How about keeping your account and just don’t login?
You may regret it otherwise when you come back at some point and all your badges and event icons are gone.
(That’s what usually happens to gamers who say they leave forever, delete their characters or account and later they’ll regret it and some even have to buy all games again because of that)
You’re leaving?? Oh, I’ll miss you on Viki! I enjoy reading your comments and seeing your perspective on issues. I hope everything goes well for you in your health, your family, and your life. Que Dios te bendiga–voy a rezar a Dios por ti I wish you all the best
I beleive there should be some new change in the entertainment industry in Korea, Japan and other asian countries. They consider the box office, celebrity endorsement, money they earn and the so-called fame as a great success no matter what kind of deal, corrupt and exploitation.
Hi! I just wanted to update your information since it’s faulty. Physician-assisted suicide is not legal in Sweden. Although it is legal in Switzerland. I believe you’ve confused the two.
My post includes mainly quotes from several pages and comparisons between different countries.
The part you quoted is from this page:
So they may confused Switzerland and Sweden or private and official person:
This map is probably more accurate:
Most people are constantly connected these days, so rumors and criticism are little more than a few clicks or taps away. And people are bold online. Taking away anonymity doesn’t even phase a lot of users because saying awful things through a screen is a lot easier than saying it to a face. When you’re not directly looking or talking to others, it’s easy to forget that they are human beings with their own thoughts, needs, dreams, and insecurities.
Now take the worst of the internet and combine it with mental health stigma, and the high-pressure and often exploitative environment of the entertainment industry, and what do you get? People who feel as if they only have one terribly final way out of their pain.
Safer working conditions won’t happen overnight, but there are steps people can take right now: going to therapy and disconnecting from the internet. Neither of those things are easy, but they are necessary. Sadly, it’ll probably take some high-profile people being open about their own therapy to mainstream it as a treatment in SK. (This should happen in the West, too, tbh; it still has a stigma here despite there being more openness to it.) As for stepping away from the internet, it should be treated as what it is – a tool. Revolutionary, to be sure, but still a tool. Tools need to be set aside every now and then. The mind and the soul need breaks.
Just a note…idol trainees are required to finish high school. Many go on to some form of college too.
I read an article that in SK 296 young women has committed suicide, and now this…
2 more suicides. SYJ the family won’t confirm it was suicide but when reading the article it seems clearly they know something bc it describes her death, as suicide.
Another suicide too young to have such a trouble life I wished he had time to read this:
Kim Sejeong the actress in ‘‘The Uncanny Counter’’ shared a societal message used in the drama: If I were to pick one out of those, it’s that we should look back and embrace our wounds at least once. If there are people out there with wounds, please don’t ignore it but firmly resolve your heart to get the courage to face them at least one.” He should have faced his demons so he could heal and forgive himself so others could forgive him.
The entertainment industry is seriously messed up. It puts a lot of pressure on these young people who are still trying to figure out this thing called life. And in most cases, there is no support, either. I have talked about this before, but mental health is a taboo topic in a lot of countries, including mine. And then tragedy strikes. “Oh, How could this have happened?” we ask ourselves, even though it was staring at us the entire time. Unless we break through these antiquated social norms, people will continue to die…
If Song Yu Jung and Iron could not find peace and love in this life, they will in the next.
Yes, they will
The young Actress (KS) from ‘‘The Uncanny Counter’’ was very touched with many quotes in that drama, and I liked that one too. That drama was about people being possessed by demonic entities that made them do bad things (some were severely abused during childhood and hatred grew inside of them) that doesn’t mean that was the case of the rapper guy, but for what the evidence showed; his violence was very extreme.
If only that country would spend less money in high rise building, and try to make Clinics that can help these so young suicide victims. They are victims of a system that has the resources to combat and stop the so many senseless suicides. They are in the prime of their life and it breaks my heart that they have no where to turn to bc if they had (family wise) some of this suicides could have been prevented. In the case of 296 suicides (all female) were due to lost of job bc of the pandemic. They lost their only source of income, and most likely with no where to seek help for their anguish and depression, they didn’t see light at the end of the tunnel, and chose suicide over life.
Here in US we have what they call Crisis Intervention/ Suicide prevention. A lot of young ppl (and old) are committing suicide like crazy over here, and now they have these services 24/7 to visit the homes in crisis. A lot of young ppl are having a hard time bc they can’t go to school and their life is in chaos right now. My younger son was very depressed and I talked a lot to him and asked him if he gives me permission to ask them to come into our home to talk to him but he said no that he feels better now. He finally has gone out with his friends to hang out (something he wasn’t doing at all). I’m constantly opening his door checking on him, talking to him (making him laugh with my goofiness) and so on . Parents need to be more alert during this troubled times that sadly is taking longer than expected to be over.
PS. I wrote this in a rush before leaving to my son’s appointment so I fixed some stuff lol
It has no subs so why is it sad? They only translated bits and pieces. Was he emotional about getting married?
oh sorry, I meant the comment section was a little sad to read, not the article or video itself.
I’m dying to know what made him cry so much, and hopefully whatever he said can help me understand a bit. I mean, I know that ‘‘idols’’ are controlled by their Fans, and they can’t get married bc it would be the end of their so called: popularity.
I just hope he doesn’t have that narrow minded mentality, and let others dictate who he can love, no matter what gender or conditions it may be. FANS have no right to control the actors life, and if anything that horrible thinking/action is what causes them to resort to suicide. They see no light at the end of the tunnel bc they only see a ruined future/or shame for themselves and family.
I wish him the best and I hope he has a good head on his shoulder, and not let Fans/others control his life, and hope he put his foot down as to how much they can expect from him and especially to make sure they respect his privacy.