Once you hide a language team from the project finder ALL applications (sent via the project finder) for said language disappear without a trace, so get ready to make screenshots, everyone!
I don’t know if they automatically got a rejection message, but I guess they should still be listed under “Application status: rejected” in that case (which they are not).
Happened to me twice already – the first time I was receiving subtitler applications for multiple languages as the CM. Since the show came pre-subbed in four languages, the moderators hid their teams and I was unable to get back to the subbers (refer them to the moderator for their language or their language community).
The second time happened when I became the German moderator for a show. I had enough subbers, so I wanted to hide the team there as well (but forgot what happened last time ), so if I hadn’t checked their profile prior to that, I wouldn’t even be able to look for them in my search history.
I’ve received some applications in Project Finder from subtitlers with 0 contributions. I don’t have a mod for their language, and I don’t know what to do. Reject them without a word of explanation is not a nice thing to do. Write to them to tell them why I have rejected them? It’s a lot of work…It will be easier and nicer if we could write to them, explaining our reasons, directly from Project Finder. (@brendas)
Hi @isabellaeldanna ! Forgive my tardy reply!
Thank you for reaching out! I love that that you’re keeping every applicant’s feelings in mind and wanting to offer a personal explanation as to why you are having to reject their application. Please stay tuned on this!
Every bit of feedback that has come through Application Manager is being reviewed, evaluated, and prioritized by the team and over the past few weeks updates have been made to address the biggest concerns. More is to come! Thanks!
Hi @irmar - Just wanted to circle back to thank you for bringing up these questions! I know the team reached out to you via Zendesk but I thought it might be helpful to also share the response with everyone here as well as I know the response also helped me. The key was understanding that Applications Manager is meant to show you all the channels that you are a part of. So if a channel appears in Application Manager it does not mean that the channel - or the language team that you’re a part of that channel - is still open. And if you’ve already hidden your team through Manage Channel, you don’t have to hide your team again in Application Manager. Think of the “hide a team” button in Application Manager as shortcut to access the “Manage Channel”/ ”Team Settings” of each channel that you are part of vs. a sign that you need to hide that team. We’re going to update our Help Articles to help explain this better. The team is also looking to see if there’s more feedback on this confusion. Thank you!
If this is so, why not show it as already hidden?
I would like to suggest that for those that are already hidden do not appear in the same way as others.
It’s all right to show all of our projects, but there should be a visual indicator of which we have already hidden the team on. Because sometimes we may not be sure, wonder, did we or didn’t we already? and try to hide them.
When we do, I would like an indication that “the team is already hidden, so don’t bother to do this!”
For all of the channels there is the dropdown menu to choose “open for recruitment” or “not recruiting”. Maybe put a little check on “not recruiting” (a check which you cannot uncheck unless you go to the Channel manage page. And that automatically goes away if the percentage goes down, as happens when the English team add songs or other segments or if a special episode is uploaded etc).
Thus we would immediately know which ones need our attention!
I have a suggestion regarding that. Being a part of too many shows, and having too many shows on Application Manager sometimes becomes confusing – I can’t probably remember where the team recruitment status is open, and where it is closed.
If the purpose behind AM was to show which projects we are part of as manager and/or moderator, then one helpful thing Viki can do is to add a filter. Through that filter, users can select which shows to show on AM – shows that are recruiting, shows that are not recruiting, or both.
This way, we moderators will find using AM less confusing, and Viki will be able to retain the original purpose of AM. A win-win situation for both. Also, if possible, please add a notification feature, I do not have enough time to check each channel and see where I have new applications. Otherwise, the entire existence of AM is pointless. You might have already seen this topic, right?
Which is redundant. We already have our profile page, the Contributions tag, which lists our projects, and we can sort them by channel role. We don’t need another list of all our projects.
Only those which aren’t complete and that are in need of contributors are eligible to be on the Project Finder.
Hi @irmar - Thanks for the response and explaining a bit more on how you’re viewing / interpreting this button. If you haven’t already, definitely also share these thoughts & recommendations through that more formal Feedback link within Application Manager. Thanks again!
Hi @shraddhasingh ! Thank you for joining the conversation and sharing your perspective. If you’re able, please do submit these thoughts (suggestions & asks!) through that Feedback link in Application Manager if you haven’t already done so. It’s so important that the team hears from as many of our Contributors as possible. Thank you!
How about we had a little combo Applications Manager, where we could also see for which channels we applied to be a Channel Manager? Say there would be a separate section for managing our own CM applications. It would be great to see a list of channels one has applied for, and also to have an option to withdraw such an application. Some dramas/movies are “coming soon” for ages, and we never know in some cases when a given channel is going to be on air, so people apply right away, but after months of waiting, one may simply forget what channels they have applied for – believe it or not And sometimes circumstances may change, so after 6 weeks or 6 months of waiting for a show one may want to withdraw their CM application, as they are no longer available/interested, but we don’t have such an option now. I think this would be helpful for Viki Staff as well, as it’s better to choose from those actually and currently interested and available. We have a view of projects we are already part of (e.g. on our profile page), but not of those that we applied to be the CM of, so this would be useful, I think.
The problem is not always aplying to a lot of channels at one time
If the drama/movie is restricted to English and then gains rights to translating into other languages, they just choose CM from a list of people who applied, when it was “coming soon”
That means you suddenly get appointed to the channel, that you aplied for some months ago, out of blue (awful, happend to me, might happen to you too, beware :D)
To remember channels like that, I would need to make a list and update it somewhat often and even then I still wouldn’t know if said channels will gain translating rights or just disappear in the future
There have been shows that are “coming soon” for some months/years. You might have applied in hopes it gets aired soon, but there were some delays or unexpected problems. And since you have time, you apply to other projects and you might simply forget, if enough time passes.
Exactly. You can forget even about one or two channels if it’s been months or years of waiting. This is what I meant (plus those movies that are initially available in English only – good point @zyxw, same thing), and this is what I heard happens to people. Some suddenly get appointed, and they are quite surprised, it may also be the case they are not so much available anymore.
Oh yes it did happen to me. Two year-old dramas suddenly were bought by Viki one year after our initial application. With the result that I had three on-air projects at once - and they were projects I dearly wanted, important ones. A nightmare, for a while I had no other life!
But, either you remember them or not, if they come after months of waiting, it will still be a surprise, having a list somewhere won’t change that.
), so if I hadn’t checked their profile prior to that, I wouldn’t even be able to look for them in my search history.
And sometimes circumstances may change, so after 6 weeks or 6 months of waiting for a show one may want to withdraw their CM application, as they are no longer available/interested, but we don’t have such an option now. I think this would be helpful for Viki Staff as well, as it’s better to choose from those actually and currently interested and available. We have a view of projects we are already part of (e.g. on our profile page), but not of those that we applied to be the CM of, so this would be useful, I think.
